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Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

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Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#101
I've run into issues with both Google and Apple that were just ridiculous.

One time, Google randomly ceased payment processing for our app. When I reached out to them, the support staff were not at all helpful and said an "account specialist" would be needed and that they would forward the case along. Afterwards, I got an email saying that they would respond in 24-48 hours. After days of waiting, they finally message me asking for passport photos. I send them over, get another "24-48 hour message", and then two days later they reply back saying they want the exact same documents again. Insane! I send it again and mention that I already sent these. They wait two days and reply back that they actually want my co-founder's passport now. I reply back with that. Then they send another "please wait 24-48 hours" message.

At this point, I tried reaching out to friends at Google to see if they could escalate internally for me. A case got created, but two days later I get an email saying that this is something that the Google Pay team manages, not the Play Store team. Apparently, Google's org chart was my problem.

After all this, a response comes back saying "Your account is currently suspended you submitted documents which cannot be used to verify your account details. Our team has responded to you with specifics about what needs to be submitted in order for them to complete our review." Except they hadn't. I responded back about how both my cofounder and I submitted every document they asked for multiple times and answered all their questions to no avail. I pleaded with them to please let me speak to a human about this. After yet another agonizing 96 hours, our case was resolved and payment processing was re-enabled. We were bleeding money at the time and had been paying thousands of dollars a month to their ridiculous 30% highway robbery tax on subscriptions.

While not quite as bad, Apple blocked an app update because the current reviewer didn't like our subscription group separation. The only problem is that the app release in question had no such changes and the subscription group setup had already been approved in a previous release. The setup made sense and used common practices for A/B testing different prices, but the Apple agent we got on the phone with wouldn't have it. They insisted we release an update that would break existing subscribers to comply with their policies. Two bugfix updates were rejected for nonsensical reasons. We went through an escalation channel to get them out. When we submitted updates again, the reviewers magically had no more issues with things they'd already approved in the past.

Forcing a 30% cut isn't even the worst offense of these app stores. There's literally no easy recourse when things go wrong.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

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post #34

I'm genuinely interested in hearing from people who believe that Apple and Google should have a monopoly on deciding what apps people can run on their phones. In case of Google's Android, one can still install third party App Stores, even they take away auto-updates and such. Apple is a much worse offender. In either case, why does anyone think that they should have a monopoly there and why is nothing being done to f…

How would you realistically solve this problem? Part of what makes these platforms so attractive to the end user is in fact app curation. Strict control over APIs and power usage, all sorts of minimum standards and mandatory integrations are contributing enormous value to these ecosystems.

Legislation mandating all platforms to allow for third party app stores to exist with zero functionality/feature penalties in terms of what those apps are able to do (Apple can't gatekeep certain features as only supported by Apple app store apps). I would dovetail this with legislation limiting app store cuts to 5%.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#103
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is astonishing is that despite the scale at which they operate we rarely hear about the problems. False positives seem to be ridiculously low.

We hear about problems on here all the time... and that's probably about 0.01 percent of the problems that actually happen. Given the diversity and sheer boneheaded stupidity of the problems we do hear about, there's no chance that they don't have a ton of false positives... especially among apps developed by people who haven't yet learned how to work around whatever stupidity currently obtains. But you can't learn d…

After my app got some traction due to a reddit post i made, admob instantly disabled earning for 2 weeks due to "suspicious activity" or something like that.

I tried to reach someone to at least get a clarification...am I not allowed to have a surge of ~100 real users? but there really was no way to present my issue to anyone. It really is bad, there was nothing I could do. If this wasnt a hobby project I would have been really frustrated instead of being just disillusioned.

Its a remake of an old 90s game that is also offline so there is not much risk in it.

I suspect there are a lot of these stories never shared.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#104
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dont worry, google is working hard to make sure that even employees are unable to do anything of that sort. Gather the world's information and make it uniformally unsupported.

This is good . It will tie the fates of small time customers/users to the elites, so the situation gets fixed or the business collapses.

I agree. A process that's broken for everyone gets fixed. A process that can be worked around by everyone who has the power to get it changed can stay broken indefinitely.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#105
post #81

It just amazes me that developers try to cram editorializing into the title of the app, when you're already given a search word field and a description field in which to tell the world about your app. IRL nobody searches for "Cheerios - Toasted Whole Grain Oat Cereal for the Whole Family".

Why even have names then? Might as well just be a serial number that isn't displayed, and a bag of keyword fields that also aren't displayed but can be searched.

A name has to convey some sort of meaning, otherwise everything will be a billion versions of Verizon. A toothbrush would be indistiguishable from a tax prep software by their names.

And of course people search for every one of those words in that long cheerios name. You can't search for a thing by it's short unique meaningless name until after you find it by searching for what you want, like toasted oat cereal or wallet of freedom.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#106
post #13

Meanwhile, lots of other apps with 'Free' in the title, description, etc. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=free&c=apps Including some Google owned ones like YouTubeTV.

Yeah they only review when you make a new release, so maybe these apps just haven't been updated in a while

Not quite, it is only reviewed when you make an update to the play store description, not when you publish a new version.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#107
Oof. I’ve had the user account one before from Play for an app that had no user accounts. Apple isn’t much better though - currently trying to argue that asking for user location (when a user clicks ‘use my location’) for a real estate app is reasonable. They are insistent it’s not a valid feature and won’t accept it til it’s removed.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#108
I'm somehow both appalled, surprised, and unsurprised at the same time. Tech companies have a weird habit of jumping into language markets they don't actually have the staffing to properly serve. However, I never expected to see Google just outright machine-translating titles to do compliance checks on.

> After 4 full days of trying to teach Google staff how a dictionary worked

Google's moderation policy is to treat any sort of complicated business situation as some kind of DDOS attack, as if you e-mailed your appeal buried deep within a ZIP bomb. They have strict computation quotas on wetware.

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#109
About the log-in requirement, happened to me too on an app with a textbox used for searching (no login required anywhere). I just filled the login form with a sample search and wrote a little explanation. They accepted it on the spot (although I doubt they will ever read it)

Re: Your app is not compliant with Google Play Policies: A story from hell

#110

I have the same experience with the Google Play Store. For all the complaints people have about the Apple App Store, at least their reviewers are human and you can discuss things with them. And they block updates but don't remove the app without warning! My experience with the Google Play store: I get an email on a friday night after working hours stating that the app of my company was removed after a routine check a…

The number of times I've heard of people only getting support from Google because they know someone on the inside is quite astonishing. If I were an Google employee looking to make a few extra bucks I'd definitely start offering to help "nudge" account issues for a few extra bucks under the table.

Oh, I've no doubt that's happening in all the major tech companies.

Amazon employees got caught doing this.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/six-indicted-connection...

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