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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by prometheon1 »

askvictor wrote: post #171
commoner wrote: post #161

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Touchpad gestures for Linux apps are being worked on: - Latest update (December 2021): https://www.gitclear.com/blog/linux_touchpad_update_december... - HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29555822 So far, pinch-to-zoom has been implemented in Firefox. (If you are using X11 instead of Wayland, then the environment variable MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 needs to be set.) Gestures for back/forward navigation have not been imp…

What I don't quite get is why this needs a project; it just needs configuration options; for example, two-finger swipes currently map to mouse buttons (buttons 6 and 7 for left/right swiping) which most apps interpret as scrolling (in every direction). I'm about to write a script to remap those to browser back and browser forward actions (after a delay to prevent repeated actions), but I'm so surprised it's not baked…

As a user interested in three-finger middle-click and not interested in two-finger back swiping I have the exact opposite experience.

In Windows and Linux clicking the trackpad with 3 fingers causes a middle click, in MacOS this is not an option at all. Moreover, enabling it is apparently a project so difficult that the cheapest solution[0] I could find costs €8 just to add middle click functionality, nothing else.

[0]: https://middleclick.app/

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by occamschainsaw »

_v8ex wrote: post #250
lordgroff wrote: post #51

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First year for me not on Linux desktop for my primary device since... 99? M1 Air was the culprit. I still don't particularly love Mac OS and remain somewhat puzzled by the overwhelming love people have for it but: 1. It's usable enough and it's certainly polished and much more importantly 2. The M1 Air is the laptop I always dreamed of. Fast, doesn't get hot, SILENT. It's worth the trade-off for me, but I hope Linux…

I switched almost 2 years ago to macOS, I still have a hard time resizing windows and I miss how well it worked on Windows. But as yourself I’m in love with my MB Air, I bought it as a placeholder while waiting for the new Pros but I can’t go back to a heavier machine to get performance that I don’t need out of it. Sure it’s leaking in screen real estate and brightness, but I’m afraid there aren’t any alternatives to…

I have been using the Magnet app[0] since 2013 for window management on Mac. You can use it to position/resize windows using mouse gestures (dragging to edges etc) and shortcuts. BetterTouchTool is another powerful tool that can be used for window management along with many other things.

[0] https://magnet.crowdcafe.com/

[1] https://folivora.ai/

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Post by jhasse »

nerdponx wrote: post #107
somenewaccount1 wrote: post #66

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Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

I think MacOS got something right by using its Command key for "desktop-wide" shortcuts that aren't specific to one application, (kind of) leaving Ctrl and Alt for applications. I generally try to follow this pattern when possible. But I really do wish that it was easier to get a consistent look and feel on Linux, including key bindings.

except that it doesn't ... e.g. switching workspaces on mac ist ctrl+arrow.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by rbreaves »

Fnoord wrote: post #300
rbreaves wrote: post #218

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There are 3 options here. https://github.com/mooz/xkeysnail https://github.com/k0kubun/xremap https://github.com/autokey/autokey My advice is to skip the last one unless you need something truly complicated and a config syntax that is just insane regardless of your level of complexity imo. Of course if you just want mac based keybinds to be done for you then use my kinto app. https://github.com/rbreaves/kinto

I use AutoHotKey in Wine, and that works for me.

Really? I’ve never seriously considered trying AHK in wine.. just kinda assume that won’t work lol.

Am curious now how well that works via xrdp then as xkeysnail & other uinput methods don’t.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by eitland »

KerrAvon wrote: post #246
eitland wrote: post #169

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> and be as consistent as my old Macs. Would it help if I point out that this is just rose tinted glasses? ;-) Or at least, when I used Mac full time back in 2009 - 2012, it was the least consistent thing I ever used: even such basic shortcuts as moving a word forward or backwards was inconsistent. Same with home/end: in one app it would be CMD + arrow left/right, in another it would be fn + arrow left/right. In Safa…

Nonsense. I don’t know what software you were using, but it must have been a badly ported from a different platform. The basic shortcuts have not changed much since the 1980’s. Moving a word forwards or backwards has always been option-left/option-right arrow. In fact, the default shell configuration in Terminal allows you to navigate the command line with option-left/right-arrow.

Ok, so I had to dig out an old blog post: https://techinorg.blogspot.com/2010/04/swithing-to-mac-one-y...

So it wasn't jumping between words it was home/end.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by _dain_ »

db48x wrote: post #295
_dain_ wrote: post #222

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Because maybe I don't want to clobber my clipboard with every damned thing I highlight?

On Linux there is a separate “clipboard” that gets “clobbered” every time you highlight something. See my other comment on the matter or https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.6/doc/xorg-docs/specs/ICCCM... .

I know; I just pretend that clipboard doesn't exist. I've never found it convenient for anything other than pasting to terminals that screw up the CTRL-C/CTRL-V shortcuts.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by criddell »

windexh8er wrote: post #146
pram wrote: post #90

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The “niche commercial software” is how some people make a living jfyi

I get that. My point is that OP says they don't "get" why people have opinions on OSes and then goes on to state how Pop_OS is "useless" if you want to run niche commercial software. I mean if OSes don't matter then I guess one doesn't need Final Cut Pro. Kdenlive or OpenShot should be just fine, right? I find that sort of argument disheartening and it is because it diminishes the free and polished options we have at…

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that all the major operating systems, both proprietary and open source, are pretty good. What people do is pick the OS that best supports the software they use.

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Post by pkulak »

somenewaccount1 wrote: post #278
pkulak wrote: post #104

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That doesn't fly with me. I just use Alacritty and re-bind the keys so I can still use ctrl-c and v: https://github.com/pkulak/dotfiles/blob/master/.config/alacr...

That was actually what I ended up doing too.....but then I miss having tabs and go back to the system terminal, and Allacrity explicitly doesn't want tabs. Argh. It's all so anoying.

Yeah, I use my window manager for the tabs. They are very necessary, but I like it better when the WM does it instead of every app. You'd be surprised how often you want to have your browser and terminal tabbed together in the same window once it's an option. Plus, you don't have to remember ever app's tabbing hotkeys.

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Post by yepthatsreality »

pjmlp wrote: post #334
yepthatsreality wrote: post #317

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Twisting the definition to a more practical idea is better for progress, and will attract more users because it will seem like a more tangible goal. And I don’t count WSL as Linux on the desktop because it was already possible to run a VM of Linux on Windows and vice versa before it existed.

Twisting the definition is acknowledging having lost the original goal. Projects don't pivot just because it feels good doing so. Same applies to Windows on the server room, WSL did not became a standard option despite the years of Virtual Box and VMWare just because Microsoft though it would be nice to do so.

> Twisting the definition is acknowledging having lost the original goal.

No it doesn’t. It just acknowledges that times change, software gets better, and idea is made more accomplishable instead of betting on a single year where some sort of great migration happens (which was silly).

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Post by 1_player »

pjmlp wrote: post #305
1_player wrote: post #303

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It is if you plug a monitor and peripherals. Runs a full KDE Plasma desktop.

Ah, then we can add Xbox to the amount of Windows desktops in use as well.

The Xbox doesn't show a Windows desktop when you plug stuff in. Your constant trolling on Linux threads isn't appreciated.
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