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The Zen of Drinking Alone

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Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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i like having a drink and doing mechanical coding or math. put on a good record, pour some choice tequila, and grind away. :)

ha same! either that or listening to audiobooks/podcasts. i sit down by my balcony, and i drink while enjoying the view, the book and the taste of the whiskey (currently, glenfiddich 15).

that's a great way to relax away from screens.

my go-to is tequila ocho's añejo. it's aged in whiskey barrels so perhaps you may enjoy it.

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I have very strict rules I follow for alcohol consumption, if for no other reason than I'm the son of a man who was a functioning alcoholic for most of his life. I've read the big book, and consider it a source of wisdom, even if I perhaps don't follow all of the tenants contained within. The serenity prayer, which is AA adjacent if not (now) directly part of the AA wisdom is my personal lodestar, it's great wisdom o…

What tools do you, or other HNers for that matter, have to share about breaking alcohol addiction? Especially covering the hard parts: what are the major hurdles to overcome?

Make sure you are never hungry and drink lots of water. Stay busy with people doing things you cannot do if you are hungover or intoxicated. Sometimes just having impending responsibility to others can be enough if it’s merely just temptation. Also getting a monthly injection of time released naltrexone can remove the possibility of satisfaction from drinking. Not advice just possible strategies.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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This is poetic, but if you break it down into a syllogism, it's clear that this is totally stupid. Removing the flowery language, here are the claims and supporting arguments, along with my rebuttals. * Drinking alone helps you understand yourself better. - No it doesn't. It distracts you from that endeavor. If you sit at a table with no TV or phone and do nothing, you will have a significantly more interesting and h…

Instead of drinking, all of these can be accomplished by taking a “spiritual retreat” for a weekend. It could be a trip into the woods, a religious retreat with other people, or a stay at a quiet hotel far from home. I’ve done all three. When I have to make the long drive to my parents for a mandatory family get together, I’ll book a hotel halfway to take time for myself. The idea is to get away from your normal envi…

I had kind of spiritual retreat when I had to isolate for ten days with Covid. I was scared that I wouldn't be able to cut back on my alcohol usage, but it turns out I hardly drank at all. I poured myself a beer most nights but only drank a little bit of it. That really brought it in focus for me how much of my drinking is driven by self-medication for social anxiety and boredom.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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I always drink alone these days, Covid killed whatever superficial drinking groups I had joined. Though I tend to prefer to go out, as opposed to being at home. I’m stuck in the apartment for most of the day anyway. I’ve never been bothered much by it in the past, but I think I’m quickly getting sick of it. It frankly gets boring, hanging out at bars all night aimlessly drinking. Yeah I talk people on occasion, but w…

Sounds like a terrible bar, don’t go there. I’ve had far more positive experiences going to bars alone than I ever had in groups. Despite what people think it’s still totally possible to strike up conversations with strangers. Sometimes getting to know a stinger is more exciting and mentally engaging than small talk with some mild acquaintance. On the contrary I always hated going to bars in groups. You’re just paying extra to hang with the same people you could have just split a 12 pack with and had pretty much the same experience at home or at a park or beach. The chances of you having any interaction with anyone outside your group at a bar are minimal if not non existent.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have very strict rules I follow for alcohol consumption, if for no other reason than I'm the son of a man who was a functioning alcoholic for most of his life. I've read the big book, and consider it a source of wisdom, even if I perhaps don't follow all of the tenants contained within. The serenity prayer, which is AA adjacent if not (now) directly part of the AA wisdom is my personal lodestar, it's great wisdom o…

What tools do you, or other HNers for that matter, have to share about breaking alcohol addiction? Especially covering the hard parts: what are the major hurdles to overcome?

For me, Naltrexone was an incredible help in reducing cravings in the first few months. I came off it after around six months and no longer need it, though I think many people take it for much longer and there's not much downside to doing so.

I avoided AA due to the quasi-religious aspect, but Smart Recovery meetings helped me in the initial phase (https://www.smartrecovery.org).

I was always concerned about the longer term aspect of replacing alcohol in social settings, and there is still some awkwardness there but non-alcoholic beers have really helped for me. The scene has exploded in recent years and they're really quite good, see Athletic Brewing for some excellent craft non-alcoholic beers (https://athleticbrewing.com). In a social setting you could be drinking one and nobody would have to know. I don't hide it but I'm still glad to have something "special" to drink at an occasion. And I drink them alone too: they fill that role of something to drink when I want to relax, and I enjoy that placebo effect.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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I've never been the the cinema alone in 30-odd years, and would rather not go than go alone. I wouldn't go to a gig alone or a comedy, I wouldn't have dinner at a restaurant alone and I wouldn't go on holiday alone. All of that is to say that I very much enjoy time to myself to listen to some music with my eyes closed or just to meditate or think, I'm quite happy for solitude, but not to do _things_ (see above).

People are built differently. I saw a heist movie alone on my 21st birthday. I prefer movies alone, along with many other things like eating out. To your point, I would rather go alone to the movies or not at all. It's just a better experience. I live on 40 acres alone. I'm snowed in here currently, without a care. But I also own a bar, and bars make you lots and lots of friends. And I'm close with my family. I don't…

That was the point I was trying to make. I don't do any of those things alone but not because I don't like being alone.

I curate my friends, preferring to have few, but who are reliable, I aim not to make friends with people I meet, and the ones I do have been the one's that have clicked.

My wife, on the contrary _loves_ doing things alone, she'll happily go see a film I want to see without me if I can't find the time (she's on maternity leave with our second child currently).

I love in London and it's very common to socialise in a pub here, so drinking alone does have somewhat of a stigma attached here.

That said, I'm not sure why anyone should be dissuaded from a scotch and a cigar once the children have gone to bed.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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If you don't mind sharing, what finally made it stick when you stopped?

Most "real [1]" alcoholics try over and over to stop like myself and Bill Wilson. The following story from the Big Book illustrates the problem [2] Yet he got drunk again. We asked him to tell us exactly how it happened. This is his story: "I came to work on Tuesday morning. I remember I felt irritated that I had to be a salesman for a concern I once owned. I had a few words with the boss, but nothing serious. Then I…

Thank you for elaborating. Seeing familiar information in another context, another story-wrapper, is helpful. All this resonates with me, though for other escapes than alcohol, and what finally tipped the scales to learning and practicing was The Blindboy Podcast, particularly the mental-health episodes where he covers CBT, transactional analysis, and how he handles anxiety. Thankfully for me, my family and personal history is similar enough to his (he seems careful to stay within the limits of his experience and knowledge). He also interviews people who know more than he shoes, like Sabrina Brennan and Paul Liknaitzky.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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If you don't mind sharing, what finally made it stick when you stopped?

Most "real [1]" alcoholics try over and over to stop like myself and Bill Wilson. The following story from the Big Book illustrates the problem [2] Yet he got drunk again. We asked him to tell us exactly how it happened. This is his story: "I came to work on Tuesday morning. I remember I felt irritated that I had to be a salesman for a concern I once owned. I had a few words with the boss, but nothing serious. Then I…

Thank you for sharing. That was an incredible insight into the process and a good behavioral pattern to watch out for, especially because it resonated so much with my difficulties eating too much. I know, that doesn't generally compare to problems with alcohol, but I guess some of the mechanisms are the same. Thank you for being so gracious in providing this.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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I don't drink that much, though it goes up and down over time. I do have a few rules I follow: I never drink on Mondays. I take January as a month of sobriety. The Monday rule is two fold. First it is a weekly check on alcohol seeking behavior. It is also because all the reasons I can think of for drinking on a Monday are not reasons I want to be drinking. Having a rule helps avoid bad habits.

Why just on a Monday? I feel like not drinking on Sunday to Thursday would be more useful.

The true upside, social aspects of drinking happen for most on the weekends, due to everyone else also cutting loose on the weekends. This is why I have liver scarring at a ripe young age, but to ignore the upside altogether is also foolish.

Re: The Zen of Drinking Alone

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This is poetic, but if you break it down into a syllogism, it's clear that this is totally stupid. Removing the flowery language, here are the claims and supporting arguments, along with my rebuttals. * Drinking alone helps you understand yourself better. - No it doesn't. It distracts you from that endeavor. If you sit at a table with no TV or phone and do nothing, you will have a significantly more interesting and h…

This magazine or blog or whatever seems to either be an elaborate joke or bait or something: >Are you guys for real? >Yes. While there is some satire involved, we believe to the very core of our >souls every word we write. >Who are you? >We are a group of functional alcoholics based primarily in Denver, CO. Included in our ranks are published novelists, filmmakers, English gentlemen, barflies, punk rock musicians, co…

maybe its the inebriati https://youtu.be/VTSCppeFzX4
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