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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Is it finally the year of Linux on the desktop? But seriously, the work System76 is doing is really great. PopOS is really nice to use. The attention it is getting is well deserved.

Quite possibly. Their Lemur Pro laptop is really amazing, and I consistently grab it over my Macbook Pro or Macbook Air because it is lighter, faster, gets better battery life, and the PopOS UI is better than the lipsticked pig that Mac OS has become these days.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Couldn't agree more about consistent keyboard shortcuts. It's crazy to me that mere copy/paste doesn't have a consistent keyboard shortcut across the system (eg terminal uses ctrl-shift-c or something). And if copy/paste isn't consistent, there's little hope for other shortcuts.

Ctrl-C is a break signal. When you're in the UI, ctrl-c, ctrl-x, and ctrl-v work like you would expect. How do you send a break on a mac terminal? I didn't think it was any different.

Ctrl-C is break on mac terminals too, but it’s not a problem since for Mac applications the primary modifier is command — so instead or Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V for copy and paste, it’s Cmd-C and Cmd-V for everything, including the terminal.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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The two most expensive laptops that I have purchased are a Systems76 and a MacBook Pro. Great value on both counts.

I don't find the Pop_OS desktop to be as easy to use as macOS, but it is good enough.

Off topic, but as I approach my 71st birthday, and I will probably totally retire in a year or two, I have thought of simplifying my gear, and one thing I am sure of is that the only laptop I will want is a Chromebook with Linux containers. Otherwise in an Apple Watch and Apple iTV box is likely all I will need. For tech experiments, a Pro account on Google Colab (good GPU support) is likely all I will will need.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Why bother implementing ctrl+c and ctrl+v in Linux when highlighting text copies it, and middle click pastes it? Ctrl+c feels like the dark ages in comparison.

Note that the select and middle click method is technically the same as drag and drop. It also doesn't use the same copy-paste buffer as copy and paste.

Not to mention many Linux users hate having to use the mouse.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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What I don't quite get is why this needs a project; it just needs configuration options; for example, two-finger swipes currently map to mouse buttons (buttons 6 and 7 for left/right swiping) which most apps interpret as scrolling (in every direction). I'm about to write a script to remap those to browser back and browser forward actions (after a delay to prevent repeated actions), but I'm so surprised it's not baked…

> What I don't quite get is why this needs a project If this was MacOS, I'd agree. But on Linux, it's a different hardware landscape. There are hundreds of trackpads that Linux is compatible with, but not every one of them is multitouch (or implements multitouch the same way). Gesture support on Linux has been a long time coming, but that's mostly because getting uniform trackpad support over thousands of laptops is…

It’s more about how on MacOS, Apple gets to dictate what signal that gesture is going to send to the applications and you can’t configure it to send anything else. So either the application recognizes that signal and it works for every system, or it doesn’t and it doesn’t work for every system.

This makes it a lot more likely that apps are going to recognize that signal so it works for every system. It’s the paradox of choice.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All very pretty I'm sure. But, at the end of the day, much though I enjoy twiddling with Linux and poking around different distros, I'm stuck with MacOS because [like a lot of folks who use MacOS for work reasons and not to be 'hipster cool'] I work in the design industry and that means the Adobe suite is a must. Linux has nothing that comes close. And the customary recommendations; The Gimp and Inkscape are so pitif…

I think these articles are meant for casual users and programmer, which greatly outnumber desktop publishing/artistic users. No one has claimed with a straight face that gimp will let you replace photoshop overnight.

> No one has claimed with a straight face that gimp will let you replace photoshop overnight.

Sure there is: [Switch from Photoshop to Gimp: Tips From a Pro](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7480806).

The author of the article above plays on the ambiguity between hobbyist and professional:

> I stopped using Adobe Photoshop and switched to GIMP for all my personal photography projects. This wasn’t the impossible task that most people believe it is.

> I spend about 90% of my time in Lightroom and only 10% in Photoshop. This is the same for many other professionals

But closes the argument with:

> For the reduced role that Photoshop now plays in many photographers’ workflows, GIMP is surprisingly capable.

People who work "day in and day out" with a product, are typically a minority on those discussions. Here's another: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7485643 - the opinion is clearcut like the parent's (ie. no way GIMP can replace Photoshop).

On the other hand, there certainly is a range on the spectrum where people can reasonably use GIMP. But at the very least, the idea of "GIMP can replace Photoshop" should be qualified precisely by the use case.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

Regarding Ruby on Rails on Windows, using Docker is probably the way to go. As a bonus, deployment will become easy, as well.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Weird comparisons. On the left we have first party apps by Apple, and on the right we have whatever you want to download from the internet. Particularly egregious for things on the right that are also available on the left, which is most of them.

It's not a comparison. It's a guide for getting tasks done on Pop!_OS for people who are used to macOS.

It's like those guides for replacing jQuery with vanilla JavaScript. Of course the vanilla JavaScript is available for people using jQuery, but that's not the point.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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It's been a while since I used a Mac but my recollection is that the same Emacs style key bindings were available for all text fields pretty much without exception. https://jblevins.org/log/kbd

Thanks, this might come in useful at some point. That said, on Windows and in Linux this is extremely much simpler and more consistent, I can write it down right here and now, it doesn't need a full web page: arrow keys: move ctrl + arrow left/right: move left/right to next word boundary. shift + arrow left/right: select a character to the left/right. ctrl + shift + arrow left/right: select to next word boundary.

There's a pretty popular macOS key bindings file that remaps shortcuts to be more in line with what you would find on a Windows machine particularly with respect to word boundaries and text editing, which is pretty much a must install on any new Mac for me.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Having recently moved back to Linux (PopOS) from Windows, the one biggest annoyance is not being able to configure two-finger touchpad swipe to be browser back/forward. This is the default in Mac, easily configurable in Windows (perhaps it's the default?), and default in ChromeOS. But simply not an option in any Linux I've tried. The Epiphany Browser does it, but that lacks extension support so is a no-go for me. Any…

My annoyance in going to pop from windows is lack of the address bar in the file explorer. I miss the ability to copy/paste file paths there, click up to navigate up the directory structure, drag and drop paths into shortcuts, etc.
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