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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

criddell wrote: post #21

I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

Perhaps there should be more of a pragmatic push for dual booting? I daily Fedora Linux but I can boot to Windows for random unsupported games. My setup is perfect for me despite being ~10 years old.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by RcrdBrt »

Steltek wrote: post #131
taeric wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this funny, in that I struggle with Mac all the time. The worst grievance lately is that I don't know how to just pop back and forth between three windows. Something about the way command tab works just kills my ability to reason about what the window stack currently is. And, for the life of me, I never get copy paste from a terminal to work like I want it to.

Headed in the other direction (Linux at home to Mac at work) for years now, I can't understand what the fuss is about with Mac keyboard shortcuts. In my experience, I don't find them consistent, useful, or pleasant to use. You hit the nail on the head with alt-tab. alt-tab is universal. Hell, alt-tab works on Android if you hook up a keyboard to it. Mac is the only thing where alt-tab falls on its face. Even if you r…

By default GNOME has the same distinction between apps and windows and works with the backtick, too. I find it comfortable enough once you get used to it. You can do 2 different things with almost the same command (in terms of fingers position). It's only manageable with a US keyboard layout though, I give you that.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by kaladin-jasnah »

upbeat_general wrote: post #8

Having switched from macOS to PopOS very recently, it’s been pretty smooth. My only real issue is that Remote Desktop support is worse than macOS which is itself far worse than Windows RDP. I know it’s a Linux/Debian wide problem, but I’d really like someone to step up and bundle something polished out of the box.

Use NoMachine. It's by far the *best* experience I've had and I love it. Sure, it's not free software, if that's your thing, but like, it's _really_ good (really good latency and quality). Works on Windows, Linux, and Mac hosts, and clients for all three as well.

Truly a wonderful piece of software.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by medo-bear »

howdydoo wrote: post #98
somenewaccount1 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Are there any apps other than terminals that don't use ctrl-c? I can forgive that in a terminal app because it conflicts with SIGINT, but it would be very weird if a normal app like vscode did it differently.

alt+w is ctrl+c in emacs. moreover you can enable emacs-like key bindings in most terminals so alt+w can work there too without conflict

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by windexh8er »

pram wrote: post #90
windexh8er wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this comment disheartening. Not only because it diminishes the polished nature of today's landscape of open source options from IoT through to the data center, but the genuine disregard for anything that doesn't run niche commercial software. Beyond that many of us enjoy not running operating systems attached to overpriced hardware and/or organizations that legitimately spy on their users through their "OS".

The “niche commercial software” is how some people make a living jfyi

I get that.

My point is that OP says they don't "get" why people have opinions on OSes and then goes on to state how Pop_OS is "useless" if you want to run niche commercial software.

I mean if OSes don't matter then I guess one doesn't need Final Cut Pro. Kdenlive or OpenShot should be just fine, right? I find that sort of argument disheartening and it is because it diminishes the free and polished options we have at our disposal.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by bryanlarsen »

Steltek wrote: post #131
taeric wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this funny, in that I struggle with Mac all the time. The worst grievance lately is that I don't know how to just pop back and forth between three windows. Something about the way command tab works just kills my ability to reason about what the window stack currently is. And, for the life of me, I never get copy paste from a terminal to work like I want it to.

Headed in the other direction (Linux at home to Mac at work) for years now, I can't understand what the fuss is about with Mac keyboard shortcuts. In my experience, I don't find them consistent, useful, or pleasant to use. You hit the nail on the head with alt-tab. alt-tab is universal. Hell, alt-tab works on Android if you hook up a keyboard to it. Mac is the only thing where alt-tab falls on its face. Even if you r…

I'm not sure that the grievance is necessarily that Mac shortcut keys are better, but it's that what the OP is used to. It's a pain to switch.

I'm an Emacs man. Many Emacs shortcut keys suck, but it's what I'm used to, so it's what I want.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by mkdirp »

somenewaccount1 wrote: post #66
im_down_w_otp wrote: post #53

All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Terminal is the only thing that maps ctrl+shift+c/v to copy/paste because ctrl+c/v conflicts with signals. I've never come across any other program that maps something that isn't ctrl+c/v to copy/paste.

MacOS is able to keep this consistent because ctrl+c/v isn't mapped to copy/paste, and instead command+c/v is. If you really want, Linux is perfectly capable of mapping Super+c/v to copy/paste. You would probably only need to do this in your terminal emulator and your DE.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by Aeolun »

criddell wrote: post #21

I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

My problem with OSX and Windows is that they’re basically nannies. They often pretend to know what is best for me. Linux (and Pop OS in specific) never does this. I feel in control of my own computer again.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by brundolf »

Wow, this documentation is incredibly thoughtfully-done. It's wonderful to see a Linux distro give this much attention to holistic user-experience for regular people (going beyond just the UI itself)
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