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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by sbayeta »

criddell wrote: post #21

I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

I use Windows with wsl2. It's really good, specially with W11 which brings seamless integration with Linux GUI apps. Definitely worth a try.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by nopenopenopeno »

ejj28 wrote: post #42
linux_is_nice wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arch Linux :)

Indeed, after pacman and yay I'm never going back to Debian-based systems for personal use. The Arch User Repository is so much more hassle-free than trying to install stuff on Debian from 3rd-party repos.

What gives people confidence in the security of the user repository packages?

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by rajishx »

howdydoo wrote: post #71
linux_is_nice wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arch Linux :)

I heard rumors long ago that Arch has occasional stability problems caused by updates. Is that still true these days? I guess that's ironic to hear considering my original question, but I appreciate a different update cadence between the OS (I want LTS, stable) and things like `ripgrep`, which if there's a bug, it won't keep me from booting my system and I can just downgrade if I notice it.

i am not experiencing such instability, compared to a normal distro, i have actually no idea what breaks because so many things happened on the system, here a few packages here in there and i can easily pinpoint what problem is!

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by stjohnswarts »

marcodiego wrote: post #48

My neighbor asked me to help him get rid of windows 10 and install Ubuntu on his old (2013) laptop. I helped. It was easy and fast to install. Of course, you needed to know what is an image and how to boot from a USB device, but it was easy nonetheless. Since he doesn't depend on any windows-only software, hardware or service, I didn't expect any problem. I was particularly happy the printer (an multifunction HP Desk…

you should tell him to always use the "store" for a given distro rather than googling, that's a bad idea and you can end up with malware or breaking your config. Much better to use pacman/apt/pkg/etc if you go through the command line to install. Installing bare .deb/.rpm is a really bad idea unless you are well versed on the distro and it's packaging system. I understand the pain points of stores but they are still far better than googling for it. Pop OS actually has a nice store and bug free as of the latest revision. All my version upgrades have gone well too. The only real issue I had was trying multiple desktops. If you switch from say Gnome/KDE/XFCE it is a good idea to reboot between as they do weird things to dbus and don't plan around having multiple login types going on.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by mindB »

howdydoo wrote: post #33

This is a little off-topic, but I've been wanting to switch from Windows to Linux and the one thing stopping me is the lack of a good package manager. WAIT, let me explain. On Windows, you can just `scoop install ripgrep fzf jq` and you're in business. And updating all installed packages is one command away. Meanwhile on Debian, the system packages are often years out of date. So authors have started making their own…

One alternative you could use is nix. It works as a package manager even when not running NixOS, and the software is generally up-to-date in the unstable channel (which most people use as far as I can tell).

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by timbit42 »

zenlf wrote: post #37

After my previous Linux experience with Ubuntu 10 years ago, I gave pop os a try last year and was surprised how good it was. I think the engineers at System76 really know what they are doing and am excited about their new DE.

So you're comparing current pop os to Ubuntu 10 years ago?

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by [deleted] »

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #53

All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by judge2020 »

headmelted wrote: post #68
criddell wrote: post #21

I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

There’s so much nuance to it though. Sure, each of the “big three” work well enough these days for most tasks, but there’s more to it than just compatibility. macOS has pretty unobtrusive systems in place for code signing and only running software from known vendors. Linux has code-signing, in that it exists as a technology, but it’s not ubiquitously supported and you don’t get a centralised service vouching for reco…

Yes, Windows still has UAC issues and the farthest code signing goes for that is that unsigned code will have a yellow UAC versus blue/neutral[0].

0: https://i.judge.sh/zY50J/VyN1SkEG_H.png unverified, https://i.judge.sh/GmEa4/DVjFllkp_R.png verified on 11

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by nopenopenopeno »

howdydoo wrote: post #71
linux_is_nice wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arch Linux :)

I heard rumors long ago that Arch has occasional stability problems caused by updates. Is that still true these days? I guess that's ironic to hear considering my original question, but I appreciate a different update cadence between the OS (I want LTS, stable) and things like `ripgrep`, which if there's a bug, it won't keep me from booting my system and I can just downgrade if I notice it.

I haven’t used it, but Manjaro is the more stable Arch. It has a longer release cycle, but nothing is like Ubuntu LTS, which I use for the same reason. I’d rather just not even be tempted to deal with newest updates and Ubuntu seems to be the only way to avoid that because enough people realize they have to keep a maintained version compatible with the current Ubuntu LTS.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by pram »

windexh8er wrote: post #61
criddell wrote: post #21

I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

I find this comment disheartening. Not only because it diminishes the polished nature of today's landscape of open source options from IoT through to the data center, but the genuine disregard for anything that doesn't run niche commercial software. Beyond that many of us enjoy not running operating systems attached to overpriced hardware and/or organizations that legitimately spy on their users through their "OS".

The “niche commercial software” is how some people make a living jfyi
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