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Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

subsubzero wrote: post #537
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #495

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Really disappointed by this comment, totally uncalled for and extremely disrespectful, and in case you were living on the moon the lockdowns have been very hard on alot of people, see skyrocketing suicide and overdose numbers from these actions.

The lockdowns have been hard, yes indeed.

The lockdowns are in fact nothing to do with the virus, and instead are part of a scheme to hide the true nature of contemporary capitalism? Please ...

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

uejfiweun wrote: post #539
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #534

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I generally try not to be condescending, and seek to take seriously the opinions of people who do not agree with me. However ... > And that ... Theory about the lockdowns supposedly not being because of the virus but to hide a larger financial crisis/weath reallocation is spreading quite quickly at least at far as I can tell. to even mention this "theory" as if it had any credibility whatsoever crosses a line where I…

I think you need to get your knee jerk reactions under control. Just because someone says something that seems outrageous to you doesn't mean you should just jump directly to insults. Moreover, the parent comment did not endorse this theory, it merely noted that the theory "is spreading quite quickly... as far as I can tell". If you're interested in debunking the parent comment, perhaps reading it carefully and respo…

If someone on HN posts my example quote about flat earth theory, do you think that anyone is under an obligation to calmly explain just why flat earth theory is wrong?

Of course, you could claim that flat earth theory is so disproven that there's no need to even bother, whereas "the lockdowns are to stop public unrest" theory might have something to it, so if I want to criticize it, I should explain all the evidence that says it's false.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. From my POV, this idea is so utterly and obviously false prima facie that I'm under no more obligation to explain my dismissal of it than I would be in the flat earth case.

Also, where did I opt for "divisive insults"?

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by jiveturkey42 »

fivea wrote: post #521
jiveturkey42 wrote: post #481

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I wonder how much of this correlates with the drop in religious participation. Religion, for better or worse, was a useful tool for stigmatizing bad behavior and incentivizing good behavior

> Religion, for better or worse, was a useful tool for stigmatizing bad behavior and incentivizing good behavior Sweden is one of the least religious countries in Europe, and one of the safest.

That is factually untrue, in the last decade;

"Approximately 13 percent of the population in Sweden experience problems in their own residential area with crime, violence or vandalism. It is one of the highest proportions in Europe."

https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/artiklar/2019/fler-upplev...

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by jiveturkey42 »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #541
subsubzero wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really disappointed by this comment, totally uncalled for and extremely disrespectful, and in case you were living on the moon the lockdowns have been very hard on alot of people, see skyrocketing suicide and overdose numbers from these actions.

The lockdowns have been hard, yes indeed. The lockdowns are in fact nothing to do with the virus, and instead are part of a scheme to hide the true nature of contemporary capitalism? Please ...

It sure was a convenient way to move around trillions of dollars

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

jiveturkey42 wrote: post #544
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lockdowns have been hard, yes indeed. The lockdowns are in fact nothing to do with the virus, and instead are part of a scheme to hide the true nature of contemporary capitalism? Please ...

It sure was a convenient way to move around trillions of dollars

Oh, wait, now we're onto "it wasn't just the lockdowns. They set up the lockdowns knowing that some months later, they would inject billons of dollars into the economy in a way that would, GASP, benefit the already rich at least as much as the not-already-rich"? That's the claim now?

Look, I get it, the "bailouts" distributed huge sums of money and lots of it went to people who, viewed through the lens of some sort of moral common sense, should not have received it. That's unfortunately the price you pay for a big country with a big economy. Trying to ensure that none of it was misdirected would have ensured nobody got any at all.

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by uejfiweun »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #542
uejfiweun wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you need to get your knee jerk reactions under control. Just because someone says something that seems outrageous to you doesn't mean you should just jump directly to insults. Moreover, the parent comment did not endorse this theory, it merely noted that the theory "is spreading quite quickly... as far as I can tell". If you're interested in debunking the parent comment, perhaps reading it carefully and respo…

If someone on HN posts my example quote about flat earth theory, do you think that anyone is under an obligation to calmly explain just why flat earth theory is wrong? Of course, you could claim that flat earth theory is so disproven that there's no need to even bother, whereas "the lockdowns are to stop public unrest" theory might have something to it, so if I want to criticize it, I should explain all the evidence…

In the original comment you implied that the parent lacked critical thinking skills and mocked the idea that lockdowns even exist. I hope you can see how that is insulting, especially considering that in a later reply you said "The lockdowns have been hard, yes indeed". It kind of leads me to believe that you are the one arguing in bad faith here.

And I am not saying you are "obligated" to do anything. What I am saying is that by reacting the way you did, you are contributing to the hardening of beliefs and the polarization of this issue. If you want to live in a world where "utterly and obviously false" ideas continue to gain traction, then by all means keep insulting anyone who you disagree with.

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by jiveturkey42 »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #545
jiveturkey42 wrote: post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sure was a convenient way to move around trillions of dollars

Oh, wait, now we're onto "it wasn't just the lockdowns. They set up the lockdowns knowing that some months later, they would inject billons of dollars into the economy in a way that would, GASP, benefit the already rich at least as much as the not-already-rich"? That's the claim now? Look, I get it, the "bailouts" distributed huge sums of money and lots of it went to people who, viewed through the lens of some sort o…

No, you're right. Everything happened exactly as the experts and fact-checkers said it did

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by [deleted] »

nomel wrote: post #443
LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #397

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Lacks autonomous armed drones swarming around the train, "disencouraging" anyone who doesn't belong there to stay off the tracks.

I'm fairly certain the FAA is the only things preventing their use. They're already being deployed in India: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/western-railways-to-use-surv...

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Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by netizen-936824 »

mrguyorama wrote: post #525
netizen-936824 wrote: post #439

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For one we could stop electing idiots who only care about enriching themselves and maintaining the broken power structure

The problem is that literally every single voter in America nods furiously at this statement.... but only about their guy

Personally I think they're all in that boat. No US representatives have impressed me

Not to mention politicians lie to get elected anyhow. They all make empty bullshit promises, so even if they did offer something impressive its doubtful any of them would or could follow through. The fact that they want to stay in power means they keep lying or misrepresenting things in order to keep the votes flowing in

Re: Train burglaries in LA

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Post by [deleted] »

nomel wrote: post #443
LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lacks autonomous armed drones swarming around the train, "disencouraging" anyone who doesn't belong there to stay off the tracks.

I'm fairly certain the FAA is the only things preventing their use. They're already being deployed in India: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/western-railways-to-use-surv...

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