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Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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post #310

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Steady growth is fine. The growth is not steady as of late, things have spiked in short order.

Tech companies are making record profits, more and more of the economy is being digitized and automated… there’s been a tech gold rush in the pandemic, giving tech companies the ability to compensate better than they did before.

Yes, but salaries are spiking in non-tech companies too, and they are not having record profits.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.

My old boss ... used to say, nobody left because of money.

Maybe your old boss never worked for minimum wage.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

#484

Reading through the comments is interesting, I seem to be one of the few looking for a more intense job rather than less. My current job, given who our customers are (the code does something a little more serious than advertising), should be a lot more intense than it is. At present we're just half-assing everything and cashing the checks. Sure it's easy, the pay is industry median, and the benefits are above average…

One thing to consider is that some of the folks looking for less intensity at work are hoping to shift that intensity into hobbies or other endeavors. I think and hope the example this would set is more along the lines of: do whatever you need to make enough money to sustain yourself and maximize the time you have to live life and explore what the things you're curious about. This might work especially well if you'd…

Don't get me wrong I'm not looking down on anyone looking for a less intense job. Plenty of slave-driving middle managers out there that bring all the wrong types of intensity to a job and are worth leaving. Even with good management working your 40 and clocking out is a fine way to fly assuming the 40 hours is productive. People have different priorities in life and that's fine.

But at my current workplace most of our time is wasted on maintaining and occasionally being forced to exacerbate inefficiencies, rather than working toward eliminating them. Just to name a few examples: All of our package dependencies are managed by hand with no time/money in the budget to implement any sort of automated dependency management, the software itself is hacked together from several pieces of internal corporate software that were never originally intended to work together and thus have a ton of redundancies, the hierarchy (or lack thereof) of the various software teams is WAY too loose to enforce good organization, and the infrastructure is begged, borrowed and stolen. All of this and more is what generates most of the "work" that gets done. Most of the time we're either putting out fires or treading water, or adding new features over the objections of senior engineers and then ripping them out when they don't work (so serious money does exist, just for all the wrong things).

The only reason any of this makes money at all is because it's a very specific niche we've cornered and like it or not we're the only functional game in town. In theory it should be an important mission, that's what attracted me to it in the first place. Sadly the powers that be don't give a damn.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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I've bounced between engineering lead and engineering manager for most of my career. I was an engineering manager (internal IP) at a MSP that got acquired early in the pandemic, and chose to move to another (better-reputation) consultancy that got acquired by the same large multinational in 2019, but didn't get rebadged instantly. I enjoyed being an IC for a year, and managed to grow an account from 0 to 20+ staff in that time, got "promoted" back to management again - found that the company was in complete limbo due to an as-yet-unannounced fold-in to "megacorp" and left.

I've now gone to a basketcase of a smaller company, in a player/coach role - and I'm happier than I've been in a long time.

It wasn't for the money - I took a pay cut. I have more problems than I had at my last role - the key thing for me is I have the latitude again to solve problems.

Whether it's pure technology or people, either way it's a system engineering issue - and the more "fun" the problem - the more fun I've found I have solving it.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strong disagree for me. I'm starting a new job in less than two weeks, but the current job I'm leaving has been the best so far in my career. Wasn't perfect by any means but it exceeded most of my expectations by far. My new job is paying 60% more than my current job, that's my reason for switching and not much else.

If you were so happy why did you start looking for another job? People don't leave because someone gave them an offer out of the blue. They have to start looking in the first place and whatever triggered that search is what's important.

I assume many people are smart enough to know that they need to increase earnings to gain security in life and stay ahead of inflation. Me being content at work is not going to pay the kids’ tuition, healthcare, or legal expenses. Or my expenses in 40 years.

A large amount of assets yielding healthy levels of passive income will.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

#488

My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.

People whose financial needs are not being met, do leave because of compensation.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

#489
I voted "compensation" (duh!) and "company culture" but the real second reason is that (a) I think I had gone as far with the company as I was going to get and (b) I didn't trust that they would make a planned transition smoothly.

Apparently I left just before they started laying people off...

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

#490
I've been toying with the idea for about a year now - and I find it hard to pick one of these over the other.

I think in general it's a re-evaluation of this matrix and how it compares with the role in hand. The pandemic put a lot of pressure on most and I think this naturally leads to looking at greener pastures.

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