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Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by marcyb5st »

bastardoperator wrote: post #306
coldcode wrote: post #132

Rather than look for another job I retired at 63.5. My job was long hours, high stress, high visibility, continuous deadlines and changes that never ended at a large non FAANG company. Compensation was OK (not FAANG but OK for where I am). Everything I or my team shipped worked great; but lots of things with these challenges never shipped for political/idiotic reasons. So much budget was wasted on Exec whims and fant…

I'm fortunate enough to be paying off my house next year and strongly considering an early retirement. Granted I'm in my 40's, I just yearn to work on something I can poor my heart and soul into even if it fails. My dream is to write a video game and the only thing prohibiting that is lack of time. I've done an IPO, I've worked for FAANG/MAMAA, I've done keynotes at conferences, I've been an IC, Manager, Director. I…

I relate so much to this. Currently working at Google and I'd like to work on something that I care about. However, I still am in my early 30s and I don't think I have enough saved to do that yet even considering that GOOG went almost 6x since I was hired.

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Post by jahewson »

Osiris wrote: post #361
HideousKojima wrote: post #265

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Strong disagree for me. I'm starting a new job in less than two weeks, but the current job I'm leaving has been the best so far in my career. Wasn't perfect by any means but it exceeded most of my expectations by far. My new job is paying 60% more than my current job, that's my reason for switching and not much else.

If you were so happy why did you start looking for another job? People don't leave because someone gave them an offer out of the blue. They have to start looking in the first place and whatever triggered that search is what's important.

This is not true at all. I get 3-5 recruiter emails per day many of which state comp up-front. Recently the numbers have got so high that I have to admit, it’s tempting, despite being perfectly happy in my current role.

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Post by lazyasciiart »

DylanBohlender wrote: post #87
diob wrote: post #39

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I think the old generation really bought into this, but the new generation knows it's a load of bull. The poll makes it pretty obvious that compensation is the biggest reason folks leave, and it's the thinking of the old generation who doesn't know how to retain talent (they do, but they keep throwing pizza parties / sending out merch instead). It's a real "it can't be helped" mentality around retention.

I like the notion of breaking job satisfaction into "motivators" and "hygiene factors" (Herzberg's motivation-hygiene theory [1]). Motivators actively cause job satisfaction. Things like finding personal fulfillment, meaningful work, and other top-of-Maslow's-hierarchy stuff. Hygiene factors cause dissatisfaction in their absence, but aren't standalone motivators. Salary probably fits in this bucket - if you learn th…

Also called 'table stakes', or 'must haves' in product development.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by mrkentutbabi »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #9

My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.

I am happy at my current jobs, then a few of the big 5s wanted me to interview, so I interview. Once they give me more money, I will leave.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by lazyasciiart »

jahewson wrote: post #452
Osiris wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were so happy why did you start looking for another job? People don't leave because someone gave them an offer out of the blue. They have to start looking in the first place and whatever triggered that search is what's important.

This is not true at all. I get 3-5 recruiter emails per day many of which state comp up-front. Recently the numbers have got so high that I have to admit, it’s tempting, despite being perfectly happy in my current role.

Maybe I should start opening those recruiter emails - I don't think the ones I have read ever included salary info...

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by arh68 »

Feels like half the team left already, and they've yet to replace anyone, so work gets dumped on us. No real commitment to remote work, let alone mask policy. Won't or can't get rid of unproductive folks. Just doesn't feel like a good place to write software.

I expect it's a story not too uncommon at this point.

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