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Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by evilksandr »

fireflymetavrse wrote: post #58
C19is20 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar. I have 40-person-viewed yt page with several videos (dashcam footages). One of the videos got blocked (someone reported it) and I had to appeal. Things went well as I specified no bad language, blood, anything even remotely 'bad', but I do wonder if things could have been worse. A few days ago there was an hn comment thread referring Gmail backups. I tried one of the processes, failed (it went very tech for…

I'm now considering removing all the videos uploaded, some of them more than 10 years old. Not worth the risk of an account ban.

Really good idea for primary account which related with gmail.

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by titzer »

shmde wrote: post #123
titzer wrote: post #99

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I do, but YouTube constantly finds a way around it. I've been running Adblock Plus and Ghostery Lite, but YouTube ads have poked their way through again.

I use UBlock Origin and I have NEVER watched an advert ever as far as I can remember. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin...

I don't use Chrome anymore, just Safari. I agree that uBlock Origin is best!

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by amelius »

usr1106 wrote: post #9
amelius wrote: post #5

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I also wonder how many users they have.

In what sense? Ridiculously few or overwhelmingly many? Honest question of someone using mostly local free software (as not in the cloud, as in free speech, not beer) and not living in an English-speaking country.

What do you mean? How can a number be ridiculous/overwhelming when you don't know it yet?

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by HWR_14 »

cortesoft wrote: post #130
HWR_14 wrote: post #111

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> worry that he'll never be able to appeal and a stupid 'mistaken reading of the ToS' on his part as a minor will affect his ability to ever host a YouTube channel or have a premium account subscription. How can a minor (who cannot sign a contract) be punished (legally) for not adhering to a ToS?

Well, the 'punishment' is not letting him use the service, which he wasn't supposed to be able to do anyway as a minor. It isn't like he is going to jail or being forced to pay a fine. You seem to be arguing that you can't ever prevent minors from using your service, since you can only exclude them via your TOS and you can't enforce a TOS against minors. This seems very similar to the arguments that "freeman of the l…

> You seem to be arguing that you can't ever prevent minors from using your service

Oh, I actually meant you shouldn't be able to exclude an adult based on them violating the ToS when they were a minor.

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by ipaddr »

ballenf wrote: post #10
evilksandr wrote: post #2

1) At the blocking moment I had only 2 videos (just screen records) on my channel which showed the same problem in 2 different Grammarly products 2) these videos were an illustration for my report https://hackerone.com/reports/1282282 , which Grammarly disclosed to the public and does not consider this a problem. 3) these videos were published after Grammarly representatives allowed me to release this information 4)…

Why did you consider tricking the plagiarism detection engine a hack? Seems more like just one of probably several or even dozens of ways to trick the detection engine. While I applaud your work and clearly think the channel suspension is BS, I just don't know that I would have thought "HackerOne" when I discovered the issue.

Trick the program into doing something other than intended is a hack.

Whether someone cares enough to pay a bounty is something else

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by ipaddr »

jcranmer wrote: post #43
jchw wrote: post #26

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Free speech isn’t just something that can be encoded into law, it’s an ideology. A great ideology, imo. That said, with COVID-19 it really became apparent that these platforms have basically become a new public square, putting everyone in an awkward position. You can basically be ousted from the internet by just a couple entities like Facebook or Twitter and have your entire online presence torpedoed. IRL I can just…

It is refreshing to see someone who diagnoses the issue here correctly. The root problem people are complaining about is the moderation policies, and the truth is that services like Facebook et al are simply too large to be effectively moderated. Appealing to (US ideas of) free speech would propose that the solution to bad moderation is no moderation whatsoever (speech restrictions must be content-neutral, and modera…

I favour no moderation but with spam detection.

Less moderation might be a good middle ground

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by darekkay »

duiker101 wrote: post #37

For those wanting a more honest alternative to Grammarly, LanguageTool[1] is open source and quite good. That said, I am not a power user and my English is just passable, so your mileage may vary. [1] https://languagetool.org

I second this. JetBrains IDEs use LanguageTool under the hood via the Grazie plugin [0]. I haven't used Grammarly ever since Grazie was introduced.

Check Settings → Natural Languages → Grammar → Rules for all available grammar rules.

[0] https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/12175-grazie

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by itake »

evilksandr wrote: post #88
itake wrote: post #85

Youtube does not allow "instructional hacking" videos. This is a TOS / community guidelines [0] violation. This ban has nothing to do with their advertiser. [0] - https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801964?hl=en

The video was published after Grammarly representatives identified the case as "The described behavior is a functionality limitation that does not affect the security and privacy of our product", disclosed the case and gave me permission to publish my research results. More details here https://hackerone.com/reports/1282282 . Аlso there in the files you can find the original videos that were published on my channel.

What was the title and description of the videos on your channel?

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by Anthony-G »

duiker101 wrote: post #37

For those wanting a more honest alternative to Grammarly, LanguageTool[1] is open source and quite good. That said, I am not a power user and my English is just passable, so your mileage may vary. [1] https://languagetool.org

Thanks. It’s good to see that it’s released under a LGPL license: https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Post by evilksandr »

jjk166 wrote: post #113
evilksandr wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video was published after Grammarly representatives identified the case as "The described behavior is a functionality limitation that does not affect the security and privacy of our product", disclosed the case and gave me permission to publish my research results. More details here https://hackerone.com/reports/1282282 . Аlso there in the files you can find the original videos that were published on my channel.

How would google's automated system for detecting hacking instruction videos know that grammarly doesn't consider something hacking and gave you permission to publish? You're posting something that looks like an exploit, and linking to multiple places that strongly resemble instructions for how to exploit a system, one of which is actively advertising "hiring hackers" and absolutely loaded with keywords and phrases t…

Ok, I agree with the keywords (not with content, which Grammarly mentioned as "not affect the security and privacy of our product"). But YT algorithm has been thinking about that 4 months after I published these videos and terminated my account (without any strikes) 2 days after YT terms was changed https://www.youtube.com/t/terms
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