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Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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For those wanting a more honest alternative to Grammarly, LanguageTool[1] is open source and quite good. That said, I am not a power user and my English is just passable, so your mileage may vary. [1] https://languagetool.org

I've been using LanguageTool over Grammarly for the past few years, and love it. Granted, I just use it occasionally, and it's possible that Grammarly is a tad better - but it's more than enough for my needs.

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Have you lost access to the associated Gmail account too? Thinking I might have too many eggs in one basket.

Similar. I have 40-person-viewed yt page with several videos (dashcam footages). One of the videos got blocked (someone reported it) and I had to appeal. Things went well as I specified no bad language, blood, anything even remotely 'bad', but I do wonder if things could have been worse. A few days ago there was an hn comment thread referring Gmail backups. I tried one of the processes, failed (it went very tech for me), but I did set up some rules to send messages from certain people to another account....just in case I need them. Yesterday, I actually did need one of them - a message from over 10yrs ago - the presentation of which saved me several 'conversations', at work.

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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I think you've incorrectly invoked "free speech" here, IMO this isn't a free speech issue. It may be a TOS issue and it does sound like Google are being a bit unreasonable but "free speech" isn't really something Google ever promised to permit on their platforms

Free speech isn’t just something that can be encoded into law, it’s an ideology. A great ideology, imo. That said, with COVID-19 it really became apparent that these platforms have basically become a new public square, putting everyone in an awkward position. You can basically be ousted from the internet by just a couple entities like Facebook or Twitter and have your entire online presence torpedoed. IRL I can just…

(tangent) kind of interesting how it resembles a small town in that way. Its a problem those of us in bigger suburbs or cities wouldn't recognize but, once you get stereotyped in some way -- any way -- it can become difficult or impossbile to escape. As the internet is even bigger than a large city -- its the whole world -- you'd naively think it would be even more proressive. In that sense these little fiefdom's provide a regression in addition to the features they provide.

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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After Grammarly spent millions of dollars on Google ads, I expect them not to accept valid criticism on Google platforms. But it's unfair to block a guy that talked about a real flaw in Grammarly's plagiarism checker, at least pretend that you allow free speech and take down that video for a random reason specified in your ToS.

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What basic freedom are these companies trampling? I dislike them as much as the next person, but it's been clear from the start that they operate their little fiefdoms as they see fit and we should be under no illusions that we have no rights there. If we want to fight for a change to the various laws in various countries, then that is a conversation I would be very willing to have. But let's not pretend that any of…

Have you considered why those places become grim places? Does free speech lead to those ideas? That would be quite a out-there conclusion. Rather, those people can only express themselves on forums like that, they are banned on all the other mediums. If free speech was set as a standard on all mediums, those people would express themselves evenly on facebook, youtube and the chans, rather than being penned into fring…

I'm not sure I follow you here. Are you saying that we should either ban racist speech outright (let's assume for argument that the speech in question is unquestionably, disgustingly racist), or else permit it in all spaces? Clearly there should be spaces where racism shouldn't be tolerated, but banning it outright seems like a bridge too far, and could make martyrs of those who defy such rules.

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Have you lost access to the associated Gmail account too? Thinking I might have too many eggs in one basket.

Similar. I have 40-person-viewed yt page with several videos (dashcam footages). One of the videos got blocked (someone reported it) and I had to appeal. Things went well as I specified no bad language, blood, anything even remotely 'bad', but I do wonder if things could have been worse. A few days ago there was an hn comment thread referring Gmail backups. I tried one of the processes, failed (it went very tech for…

I'm now considering removing all the videos uploaded, some of them more than 10 years old. Not worth the risk of an account ban.

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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1) At the blocking moment I had only 2 videos (just screen records) on my channel which showed the same problem in 2 different Grammarly products 2) these videos were an illustration for my report https://hackerone.com/reports/1282282 , which Grammarly disclosed to the public and does not consider this a problem. 3) these videos were published after Grammarly representatives allowed me to release this information 4)…

My son (a curious juvenile) found his own YouTube account banned in a similar manner for disclosing a security issue in Google wifi products. There was no first or second warning (despite what the Terms of Service say). Google would not give him a justification for the banning other than "terms of service violation". The appeals fell on deaf ears. Now their automated system keeps banning every YouTube account he crea…

I think they recently changed the tos to blacklist all videos regarding hacking and similar stuff

Re: YouTube suspended my channel for a video with disclosed issue in Grammarly

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free speech isn’t just something that can be encoded into law, it’s an ideology. A great ideology, imo. That said, with COVID-19 it really became apparent that these platforms have basically become a new public square, putting everyone in an awkward position. You can basically be ousted from the internet by just a couple entities like Facebook or Twitter and have your entire online presence torpedoed. IRL I can just…

It is refreshing to see someone who diagnoses the issue here correctly. The root problem people are complaining about is the moderation policies, and the truth is that services like Facebook et al are simply too large to be effectively moderated. Appealing to (US ideas of) free speech would propose that the solution to bad moderation is no moderation whatsoever (speech restrictions must be content-neutral, and modera…

That's one route - that I also favour - but my favourite idea would be to give everyone access to the tools that FB et al use for moderation. If I don't want to see porn/politics/bots/cussing/sport/K-pop… then I want to be able to choose that, not the platform. They have all this data and the ability to shape the feed, give me that power. No need to stomp on free speech, no need to clumsily moderate.

Of course, people with power rarely like to share it, and they certainly don't want a free flow of information that they don't control. There's the rub.

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