1. Lockdown politics
2. Company culture
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Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?
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#22My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.
He is right but only partially. A lot of people are unhappy about the money they make. you can’t escape your environment where you see someone else doing better than you in some small aspect or area of life but then is generalized to them doing better than you and hence the urge to have more money.
Most of the time things start from there and then the unhappiness snowballs to other areas of life
Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?
#23My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.
What’s bothering me? Everything is so expensive and I have so little time.
Sounds like a money problem.
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#24Because of Fiat money, in a nutshell. Bad fiscal and monetary policy. This is what you get. Inflation in shortages.
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#25You're missing an option for management IMO.
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#26other: working home/away from people leaves many (not all!) a bit less happy than before. You begin to see things in a more negative light. This "the big depression" - big in the sense of a small change across many people - has an impact on more people being unhappy with their situation.
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#27My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.
That might have been true in the old days when competitors paid 10, 20, 30% more. Now some tech companies are paying like 2x, 3x, 4x regular dev wages and its a reason to dedicate your life to this.
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#28So, I left a huge job to work on my own stuff. Specifically, I'm working on infrastructure for board games: http://www.adama-lang.org/ using a new language and new SaaS platform.... I'm definitely shaving the Yak here.
Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?
#29My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.
And that's how your old boss used to talk people about getting more money. Kids cost money. Mortgage costs money. Food costs money. And the biggest money trap of all is retirement. If you can't afford to retire from your current job, why stay?
Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?
#30My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.
Unfortunately not true in my experience – the flow that I hear of happening a lot nowadays:
* Employee is happy (enough)
* Recruiter reaches out saying "we'll pay you your_current_comp * 2"
* Employee thinks "hmmm that seems **ing crazy, I wonder what's going on"
* Checks resources like levels.fyi or their network and realizes that they could _theoretically_ make (current_comp * 1.5), and probably pretty easily make (current_comp * 1.5)
* This leads to bitterness in some cases, or frank discussions of how to get paid more in others
I don't necessarily think that this is a bad thing fwiw but it requires employers to anticipate comp issues as benchmarks change.