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It's not just you. I have trouble going near CockroachDB because of its name. It's absolutely unjustifiable from an engineering perspective, but the effect (for me, at least) is real.
I always took that to be a reference to "it's so robust, it'll survive nuclear winter," which is pretty cool if true. The last database standing after all other species die off.
Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
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Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then they would need to either 1) do the yak-shaving and create a whole new GUI stack in Rust (which would be an absolute boon to the Rust community but will be a tremendous effort), or 2) switch to Qt (and basically become KDE) Thinking about it, maybe Sciter ( https://sciter.com/ ) would be an okay foundation to build a DE in (lightweight stack, flexible theming, solid Rust bindings). But then it isn’t open source…
create a whole new GUI stack in Rust Is there a reason iced is not good enough (other than not being accessible)? https://iced.rs/ https://github.com/iced-rs/iced/issues/552
Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get to meet people who dislike Rust very often. Why don't you like it?
my 2 cents: rust evangelists, the promises of the end of bugs, and how perfect the language is for any use case... that makes my BS detector go off. Everyone has to love Rust nowadays, it sounds like a cult or something. It makes me hate rust without even having tried it, which is dumb and sad.
Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#144At the risk of sounding too negative/critical, I honestly just don’t like the design language here. Everything seems overly rounded, and more importantly, the screenshots even show very weird/inconsistent alignment and padding in the UI. Why is it that so many Linux GUIs — between apps and desktop environments — suffer from a lack of attention to detail? Once again, it’s early, I’m sure they are aware of some of thes…
It's open source. You sound like 1) you're knowledgable about what makes "good UX" and 2) you care enough to post about it. Instead of complaining, why not contribute to making it better?
Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#145I know that open source and Linux in general don't need/want another DE, but selfishly... I really want System76 to succeed. They give me the same kind of feeling I had when Apple was kicking butt in the early 2000s. And I think that for them to become a general-audience company, they need to really own more of their software. They have some great ideas, and they've already plugin'ed Gnome to within and inch of it's…
DEs are just the window dressing and computer management. That's how you end up in a situation where the contents of the window clash with the dressing because more and more apps can't be themed. If they want a consistent look they'll need to fork or write a whole new set of apps.
For some apps I don't care too much, because I run them in full screen anyway, and their specific look is adjusted to their function: IDEs, DAWs, even graphic editors. But if they do support DE-wide themes, I do appreciate that!
Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#146I know that open source and Linux in general don't need/want another DE, but selfishly... I really want System76 to succeed. They give me the same kind of feeling I had when Apple was kicking butt in the early 2000s. And I think that for them to become a general-audience company, they need to really own more of their software. They have some great ideas, and they've already plugin'ed Gnome to within and inch of it's…
> I really want System76 to succeed Succeed at what ? Re-implementing Gnome in Rust ?
Not re-implementing Gnome. Not re-implementing macOS which Gnome strives to imitate. OTOH I see the value of that: many people got used to macOS, and making things similar, and the cognitive load of switching low, makes business sense. Same as with Windows in early 2000s.
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Pop_OS is a large product of theirs, even if it's open source. It's one of the killer parts of the System76 line up in my opinion.
How? Is anyone going to buy a System76 laptop over a Dell XPS laptop or a ThinkPad because Pop!OS comes pre-installed instead of Ubuntu/Fedora?
Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#148I know we developers love our languages. But I'm always skeptical when underlying language choice is featured prominently as a selling point for any new project. It tells me, this is a technology-first, users-second enthusiast project. And thus, I'll be surprised if it tackles the deepest issues users need solved. That doesn't mean it isn't cool as a proof of concept for a new or popular language. It just makes me qu…
Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
DEs are just the window dressing and computer management. That's how you end up in a situation where the contents of the window clash with the dressing because more and more apps can't be themed. If they want a consistent look they'll need to fork or write a whole new set of apps.
The irony is that the reason why authors claim when they remove theming is to have a consistent look. For some apps I don't care too much, because I run them in full screen anyway, and their specific look is adjusted to their function: IDEs, DAWs, even graphic editors. But if they do support DE-wide themes, I do appreciate that!
Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
#150At the risk of sounding too negative/critical, I honestly just don’t like the design language here. Everything seems overly rounded, and more importantly, the screenshots even show very weird/inconsistent alignment and padding in the UI. Why is it that so many Linux GUIs — between apps and desktop environments — suffer from a lack of attention to detail? Once again, it’s early, I’m sure they are aware of some of thes…
It's open source. You sound like 1) you're knowledgable about what makes "good UX" and 2) you care enough to post about it. Instead of complaining, why not contribute to making it better?