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Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by baud147258 »

alexb_ wrote: post #57
michaelanckaert wrote: post #47

It is time for Mozilla to stop messing around. They are losing user trust extremely fast. A silent FireFox update that cripples the browser? No active update was done since yesterday and this morning: a broken browser. Please stop non-browser development and let me pay a monthly fee for a decent browser! I don’t want a VPN service, bookmark readers or other crap. I want Mozilla to defend the open web and create an op…

It seems like it has nothing to do with the version, so it's not an update from Mozilla's end. Still bad though.

looking at the internal company chat, it seems linked to an update

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by zuhsetaqi »

jacquesm wrote: post #84
Semaphor wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As others said, this happened to all kinds of versions, not just 96.

I was perfectly happy with the one that didn't support this 'feature', and automatic updates are what brought it to my system.

Why don’t you just disable automatic updates?

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by [deleted] »

Vinnl wrote: post #183

Updates on the bug: > We have other services with the same type of load balancer in front of it and we currently suspect it is an HTTP/3 load balancing problem. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c17 > Our current suspicion is that Google Cloud Load Balancer (or a similar CloudFlare service) that fronts one of our own servers got an update that triggers an existing HTTP3 bug. Telemetry was first imp…

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Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by [deleted] »

michaelanckaert wrote: post #47

It is time for Mozilla to stop messing around. They are losing user trust extremely fast. A silent FireFox update that cripples the browser? No active update was done since yesterday and this morning: a broken browser. Please stop non-browser development and let me pay a monthly fee for a decent browser! I don’t want a VPN service, bookmark readers or other crap. I want Mozilla to defend the open web and create an op…

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Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by asasa1212 »

chaz6 wrote: post #131

I suggested that data collection should be opt-in since it is (almost) the cause of this issue, and my comment was hidden for "advocacy". https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c11

Telemetry data snooping is the problem here. It clearly makes FF hang forever, and having it off by default would not have triggered the issue.

So data snooping is the issue here.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by qwerty456127 »

oefrha wrote: post #261
qwerty456127 wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pocket lacks some important features I want it to have so I decided negative when considering a paid subscription. Nevertheless I still like it and am glad it exists. It (pocket-based home page) also is my secondary major source of news about the world and curious facts (HN being the primary).

I’m sure it is useful to some people, heck I used it for a year or two before Mozilla had anything to do with it. That said I fail to see any reason Firefox should acquire it and make it first party. Might as well acquire a webmail, a feed aggregator and a video host while they were at it.

> I fail to see any reason Firefox should acquire it

Because it was profitable perhaps? Why not acquire a relevant profitable business (many already like) just for sake of profits? And pre-installing it by default seems the next obvious step to make it even more profitable.

> Might as well acquire a webmail, a feed aggregator and a video host while they were at it.

It's way harder to make these profitable without too much investment and without using severe user-annoying techniques.

Nevertheless it's already been suggested here a number of times that Mozilla should perhaps also re-invent e-mail.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by skinkestek »

smcl wrote: post #231
Ekaros wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On other hand I find it annoying that the start page of Firefox has box I always think of as search, but it is also address bar. While address bar is already at top. So I search some filename just for it to try to access it...

Oh weird you're right, I don't think I've ever interacted with that extra address/search bar. I wonder what they were thinking, that seems redundant and a bit silly

It is for people like me who doesn't want every domain I ever type in to be sent to Google or somewhere else for autocompletion.

I mean, most of all lkve autocomplete, but when you type in . or what have you, are you sure you want everyone of these keystrokes to go to Google?

If not then you want a separate search field.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by jacquesm »

zuhsetaqi wrote: post #272
jacquesm wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was perfectly happy with the one that didn't support this 'feature', and automatic updates are what brought it to my system.

Why don’t you just disable automatic updates?

Good question. Because for security reasons you want to stay up-to-date on software that connects to various websites. At the same time, from a functionality point of view I wished I'd never have to update anything.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by Jaxkr »

Firefox stopped working in the middle of writing an email. Couldn’t even restart the browser without it crashing. Rebooting didn’t fix it. Reinstalling it only temporarily fixed it. I got frustrated and installed the ESR version and it STILL didn’t work.

This whole incident makes me feel better about myself. Like any developer, I’ve deployed some nasty bugs into production. But I’ve never completely broken a web browser relied on by millions. My heart goes out to the FF team members working to fix this.

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