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Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#62
post #57

It is time for Mozilla to stop messing around. They are losing user trust extremely fast. A silent FireFox update that cripples the browser? No active update was done since yesterday and this morning: a broken browser. Please stop non-browser development and let me pay a monthly fee for a decent browser! I don’t want a VPN service, bookmark readers or other crap. I want Mozilla to defend the open web and create an op…

It seems like it has nothing to do with the version, so it's not an update from Mozilla's end. Still bad though.

If that's the case then I might be wrong. But I remember updating somewhere yesterday and using FF for a couple of hours before stopping for the day. This morning no pages loaded anymore. Hope I didn't jump to conclusions, but still.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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post #6

What worked for me was disabling HTTP3 support with the 'network.http.http3.enabled' key in about:config and then restarting Firefox. Seems like it's stuck in the 'SocketThread', repeatedly doing this: 2022-01-13 08:20:53.075936 UTC - [Parent 4106991: Socket Thread]: V/nsHttp Http3Stream::OnReadSegment count=333 state=4 [this=7f6e295623a0]

Oh wow, thank you so much for this. I've been trying to troubleshoot this for hours but because my browser didn't work I never thought of checking HN to see if other people had this as well. Another score for automatic updates I guess.

As others said, this happened to all kinds of versions, not just 96.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#64
post #6

What worked for me was disabling HTTP3 support with the 'network.http.http3.enabled' key in about:config and then restarting Firefox. Seems like it's stuck in the 'SocketThread', repeatedly doing this: 2022-01-13 08:20:53.075936 UTC - [Parent 4106991: Socket Thread]: V/nsHttp Http3Stream::OnReadSegment count=333 state=4 [this=7f6e295623a0]

Thank you!

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#65
What's driving me crazy about Firefox is that every time they release a new version, whatever version I am running on my machine stops working-- it refuses to load any new page or to refresh any existing page.

So I have to open Safari and download and install the latest release.

Which means I can never count on Firefox working. Frustrating.

osx, if that helps anyone suggest a fix.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#66

It is time for Mozilla to stop messing around. They are losing user trust extremely fast. A silent FireFox update that cripples the browser? No active update was done since yesterday and this morning: a broken browser. Please stop non-browser development and let me pay a monthly fee for a decent browser! I don’t want a VPN service, bookmark readers or other crap. I want Mozilla to defend the open web and create an op…

It was not an update, started happening to me on arch linux, where Firefox does not automatically update. Seems like some kind of timed enabling of https3 support.

Which wasn't present in previous versions. So this is still a consequence of updates. But now, to make it extra hard to troubleshoot we put in timebombs in your automatic updates that will go off some fine Thursday morning without any warning or indication that something has just changed. Idiots.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#67

It is time for Mozilla to stop messing around. They are losing user trust extremely fast. A silent FireFox update that cripples the browser? No active update was done since yesterday and this morning: a broken browser. Please stop non-browser development and let me pay a monthly fee for a decent browser! I don’t want a VPN service, bookmark readers or other crap. I want Mozilla to defend the open web and create an op…

It was not an update, started happening to me on arch linux, where Firefox does not automatically update. Seems like some kind of timed enabling of https3 support.

That concurs with what I'm seeing. Also on Arch and while I updated yesterday, FF performed perfectly until this morning.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#69

Same here, couldn't connect on nightly, had to downgrade to normal one, crash report couldn't be sent as well, likely due to the same problem (weird, I thought it's handled by macOS itself).

I had the same issue in Nightly a few moments ago, and disabling HTTP3 on about:config worked for me.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

#70

It is time for Mozilla to stop messing around. They are losing user trust extremely fast. A silent FireFox update that cripples the browser? No active update was done since yesterday and this morning: a broken browser. Please stop non-browser development and let me pay a monthly fee for a decent browser! I don’t want a VPN service, bookmark readers or other crap. I want Mozilla to defend the open web and create an op…

I don't think Mozilla's income is a problem. They are making money. The problem is how they spend that money. My impression is that they lost the original spirit. Mozilla lacked a BDFL that would embody that spirit.

What's going on at Mozilla is probably what's going to happen for Linux once Linus is out.

Both these pieces of open source software are way too big to be replicated now by a dude or a bunch of dudes and also way too big to be maintained by people on their free time. They require resources and organization which itself corrupt the original spirit.

Or maybe that whole firefox debacle made me a little gloomy today...

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