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Ask HN: Why do new browsers use Chromium instead of Firefox as their base?
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#13The Mozilla rendering engine (gecko) was never meant to be embedded in the same way webkit is. It changed a little with Fennec and firefox. The engine became leaner... Yet still it isn't easy to reuse. Even spidermonkey, the javascript engine, is never reused as v8. Different design priciples
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And you're saying Google's isn't the same? Mozilla and Google are both businesses whose primary goals are obtaining money. If you think that there are engineers specifically on the Chrome/Chromium team who ARE interested in the technology, what's the chances that there are engineers on the Firefox team who feel the same? My point being companies will always have to be monetarily-biased, and the hope is that the team…
Technically Mozilla is non-profit and thus technically not in the business of obtaining money.
Re: Ask HN: Why do new browsers use Chromium instead of Firefox as their base?
#15The Mozilla rendering engine (gecko) was never meant to be embedded in the same way webkit is. It changed a little with Fennec and firefox. The engine became leaner... Yet still it isn't easy to reuse. Even spidermonkey, the javascript engine, is never reused as v8. Different design priciples
But aren’t Brave, Edge and Opera based on Chromium instead of only Blink? Am I missing something?
Re: Ask HN: Why do new browsers use Chromium instead of Firefox as their base?
#16With google building a track record of shady tactics, I would agree. firefox seems the better choice. It seems no more difficult to fork than chromium (though I've never tried).
My 2 cents, there's nothing to stop anyone from refusing to support updates on old frameworks and I'd suspect google to pull the rug out from beneath everyone before firefox anyday.
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And you're saying Google's isn't the same? Mozilla and Google are both businesses whose primary goals are obtaining money. If you think that there are engineers specifically on the Chrome/Chromium team who ARE interested in the technology, what's the chances that there are engineers on the Firefox team who feel the same? My point being companies will always have to be monetarily-biased, and the hope is that the team…
Mozilla doesn't seem to have performance driven incentives. The remaining supporters of Firefox at this point are people who are mad at tech companies/care a great deal about privacy.
Re: Ask HN: Why do new browsers use Chromium instead of Firefox as their base?
#18Chrome/Chromium and its stack was designed to be easy to reuse and build upon. This may have been an explicit design goal because of the difficulties with reusing parts of Firefox and other software.
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#19Gecko and servo are both not easily embeddable. Servo isn't a finished rendering engine yet and the browser I saw that could exclusively use servo was not compliant enough and since mozilla fired the servo team there is no certain future for it anymore. Projects that tried to make servo embeddable are all dead and gone (see https://github.com/paulrouget/servo-embedding-example for example) So yeah last time I tried t…
When did that happen? It seems the managerial class has completed their takeover of Mozilla in the last few years. A real shame, since it basically cedes the entire web to Google.
Re: Ask HN: Why do new browsers use Chromium instead of Firefox as their base?
#20Embeddability has little to do with it; Chromium (as opposed to WebKit) isn't actually that embeddable. Rather, market share is king. With a high market share, the community will step up with projects like Electron and Chromium Embedded Framework that add embeddability.