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Post by msuvakov »

saberdancer wrote: post #279

Someone plotted test result IDs and times and the outlier is Djokovic's positive test - https://twitter.com/msuvakov/status/1481018537368035330 From the whole timeline, it would look to me as someone created a later test result that they backdated for him to be able to apply for a Visa. This would explain why Djokovic was out in public at the time he was apparently positive (I doubt he would have public appearances a…

Updated plot (29 test data from volontiers) is available here: https://twitter.com/msuvakov/status/1481033480901431297

Only outlier is Djokovic's positive test. It perfectly fits to 26. December, the same date timestamp was created.

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

aspenmayer wrote: post #256
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the messenger is spreading false information all the time, yeah, you shouldn't let them be a messenger anymore. I wasn't being hyperbolic: the vast majority of Twitter threads that I've seen make it to the HN frontpage, easily above 75%, are factually incorrect ragebait.

Sucks to be the fourth messenger then. Blanket bans would also block post by amazing Twitter users like foone. It sounds like you just don’t like or use Twitter. Is that accurate?

No, I go on Twitter multiple times a week and generally like it. Any active Twitter user will tell you that it's common for false and misleading tweets to go viral. That doesn't mean the site is bad, but it does mean it's a bad idea to go around posting random tweets on news aggregators, since there'll always be someone tweeting any take you can think of.

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Post by isubasinghe »

drno123 wrote: post #183

The real story is that in Australia, despite extremely strict rules and measures, Covid is spreading like crazy.

We don't have any restrictions now. We went from 100 to 0 and its spreading. I don't think there was even any density rules in my state, the nightclubs were packed on the 31st. Everyone I know who went clubbing on the 31st did end up with covid as well.

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Post by [deleted] »

User23 wrote: post #119
bellyfullofbac wrote: post #89

He's turning to the Donald Trump of the tennis world. No matter how cunty his behavior is, he'll have his supporters (god bless nationalism, one of the more obnoxious forms of tribalism). And now with the whole shitstorm he'll even gain the support of the anti-science antivax crowd. Like Trump and to some extent Obama, he's become the subject of a cult of personality. He can never do wrong in their eyes. Just to prot…

I downvoted you for vile language and violating the guidelines. I imagine so did the others.

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Post by ls15 »

YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #273
ls15 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you use the certificate for free movement without giving away the url to people that you don't know?

Is this some sort of fallacy I don't understand? If you are travelling internationally your are identified no matter what and even before covid you had to show proof of vaccination for different parts of the world.

In my country, the certs are required to enter businesses.

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Post by YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo »

ls15 wrote: post #285
YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this some sort of fallacy I don't understand? If you are travelling internationally your are identified no matter what and even before covid you had to show proof of vaccination for different parts of the world.

In my country, the certs are required to enter businesses.

Doubt. You can't use a vaccination card or WHO vaccine passport? which country are you residing in?

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Post by [deleted] »

Scoundreller wrote: post #18
pradn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A rapid or PCR test from within the last calendar day is required to enter the USA. It's pretty hard to get that in many countries now b/c the winter/omicron surge. Plus, it's often expensive.

USA only requires that for air passengers. Requiring overseas checkin agents to be disease doctors was okay, but asking CBP to verify paperwork and stop threats at the border was too much to ask.

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Post by benchtobedside »

pradn wrote: post #12
Scoundreller wrote: post #4

I find it funny how some countries suddenly make your life a lot easier if you have a positive test history. Canada has a fairly annoying requirement to have a negative PCR test taken within 72h of takeoff (or arrival by car), which can be dicey/expensive in many parts of the world to get, but if you have a positive PCR result from 14-180 days, this requirement drops and travel gets a lot easier than those that never…

A rapid or PCR test from within the last calendar day is required to enter the USA. It's pretty hard to get that in many countries now b/c the winter/omicron surge. Plus, it's often expensive.

Note that the USA will also accept an observed lateral flow test, not just a PCR (for air travelers).

Source: That's how I re-entered the country recently.

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Post by yucky »

Spooky23 wrote: post #131
shmatt wrote: post #17

Good for Serbia for implementing some centralized system. A PCR test result in the U.S has absolutely no way of being verified, either negative or positive In Israel, which swabs every person who lands at the airport. There is a suspiciously steady stream of people flying in from the U.S who were negative before take off and positive 10 minutes after landing

Depends on where you got tested in the US. States like NY, NJ, CA and others have mandatory reporting requirements, so test results get returned to the county or state DOH and are verifiable. The problem is at the state level, you have a lot of weird political stuff that influences what and how each state performs certain processes. There’s also a huge flow of travel from US to Israel, and lots of weird corner cases…

>States like NY, NJ, CA and others have mandatory reporting requirements, so test results get returned to the county or state DOH and are verifiable.

Those states have no rapid tests? Nobody in those states can buy a test at CVS and take it at home?

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