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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by elzbardico »

piva00 wrote: post #10
tppiotrowski wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP might think it's funny because it appears beneficial to seek an infection despite all guidance to avoid it.

As an anecdote, that's exactly the behaviour/mentality I've heard from some people I know that still refuse to take the vaccine. They are young and fit, and their reasoning is exactly that, it's easier to just get infected, recover, and get papers for traveling that are valid for 6 months... Perverse incentives showing up, as usual.

I wouldn't expose myself if I was immunologically naive to sars-cov-2, but I am happy to have had it before the vaccination as I was exposed to a more varied and wide antigenic sample than the one from the vaccines I got. Given antigenic imprinting phenomenons I am happy to have been introduced to the natural virus first.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by [deleted] »

shtopointo wrote: post #59
alexk307 wrote: post #23

I honestly don't even care if he's vaccinated or not. He's one of the best Tennis players of all time, and if he wants to be unvaccinated, he should have the right. However, he doesn't have the right to provide a fraudulent test result in order to enter into a country with its own rules, and a Tennis tournament with its own rules. Covid or not, vaccine or not, this is a scummy move by one of the world's most influent…

Feel the same – even if this test investigation is true (looks true) he can plead ignorance of course by saying he doesn't know how that system works. In effect, if his team + Serbian gov't manipulated the tests, I'm not sure what the recourse is, except for the Australian gov't to sue the Serbian gov't?

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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by elzbardico »

jablan wrote: post #76
colinjoy wrote: post #49

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Either that or the positive test is a fabrication that was backdated on paper to claim the „recovered“ status. I would also not rule out the possibility that there has not been a real positive test at all and that the tampering could include false data entry.

Considering his god-like status in Serbia, this wouldn't be hard to pull off at all.

Yeah, because every poor country must be like Elbonia with completely ignorant and corrupt public servants. /s

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by qayxc »

focusgroup0 wrote: post #57

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Plenty of honest people care. Especially Australian natives abroad who weren't able to see their families for months due to travel restrictions.

People like Australian snooker player Neil Robertson who was in tears last year when his wife was able to get his father to fly to the UK to see him for the first time in over a year.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by tut-urut-utut »

est31 wrote: post #58
Bhilai wrote: post #52

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Yeah, thats right. Also some other alarming details like Novak knew he tested positive and yet instead of quarantining he went on to attend a gathering of children unmasked.

Wasn't that gathering on the Dec 17th date, one day after the claimed (but apparently predated) positive test on Dec 16th?

It's not unusual to have to wait for one or two days for the PCR test results. Same day tests are more of an exception in most of the Europe.

If he didn't have any symptoms, and was doing PCR test regularly just to be sure, he had to reason not to go to the gathering.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by boringg »

chrisseaton wrote: post #37
joshenberg wrote: post #30

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Especially in tennis where tournaments are designed to be 'open', that is semi-professional and allowing for amateur entrants. If he were professionally affiliated with a particular country, that might be an extenuating circumstance. But as he is a private citizen seeking glory in AU, it's inappropriate to make an exception in this case.

> in tennis where tournaments are designed to be 'open' I thought 'open' meant 'open to people from outside the host region' not 'open to amateurs and professionals alike'?

Opens are for amateurs - see the golf open tournaments as well. Its kind of like open enrollment

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by jokethrowaway »

giarc wrote: post #78
hugh-avherald wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An alternative conclusion is that the entire test certificate was faked and the bogus timestamp is the smoking gun.

I don't think the certificate validity is in question since the URLs of the Serbia government sites can be accessed. Unless the implication is that Serbian government aided in the fraud.

Most likely the system is available to tons of pharmacies / testing centres. They have access to a system able to grant passes.

You just need to corrupt one to give you whatever pass you need.

That's how the "Adolf Hitler" pass was generated a few months ago.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

He's turning to the Donald Trump of the tennis world. No matter how cunty his behavior is, he'll have his supporters (god bless nationalism, one of the more obnoxious forms of tribalism). And now with the whole shitstorm he'll even gain the support of the anti-science antivax crowd. Like Trump and to some extent Obama, he's become the subject of a cult of personality. He can never do wrong in their eyes.

Just to protect my ego when this is downvoted and flagged to death: watch this comment get downvoted, because even HN has too many such numbnuts.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by kleton »

TomAnthony wrote: post #35

The negative test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640187792DOH... The positive test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640524880jk8...

'Цовид-19' has to be one of the laziest transliterations I've ever seen. Coronavirus is spelled with an initial К in every Cyrillic-using language I'm aware of, not a Ц (ts) sound in English. It's basically a keyboard IME transliteration, since in Serbian, "c" would be the Roman equivalent of "ц".
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