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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by jmopp »

piva00 wrote: post #10
tppiotrowski wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP might think it's funny because it appears beneficial to seek an infection despite all guidance to avoid it.

As an anecdote, that's exactly the behaviour/mentality I've heard from some people I know that still refuse to take the vaccine. They are young and fit, and their reasoning is exactly that, it's easier to just get infected, recover, and get papers for traveling that are valid for 6 months... Perverse incentives showing up, as usual.

There was a Dutch website a while ago where you could order a dose of coronavirus to infect yourself with.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by Bhilai »

woodruffw wrote: post #21

Could someone double-check my understanding of this? Is the conclusion that Djokovic lied about the order (and specific dates) of his PCR tests, with the goal of entering Australia while still testing positive?

Yeah, thats right. Also some other alarming details like Novak knew he tested positive and yet instead of quarantining he went on to attend a gathering of children unmasked.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by ls15 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #36
boringg wrote: post #19

More fuel to the fire - no reason he should get a pass when other people can't. Sorry - it's only tennis and he's trying to cheat to get in. This isn't to political leaders talking about the fate of their people.

> Sorry - it's only tennis Real question is why are the Australians running an international tennis competition in the first place?

In a country that currently has rules that exclude the current world No. 1...

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by panarky »

TomAnthony wrote: post #35

The negative test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640187792DOH... The positive test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640524880jk8...

Unfortunately the Serbian registry doesn't provide a timestamp for when each test was taken.

But our intrepid OSINT researcher discovered that the data in the QR code begins with a UNIX timestamp, such as cqcode=1640187792... and cqcode=1640524880...

From that one might infer that the positive test actually happened 4 days after the negative test.

The documents Djokovic provided to the court claim the positive test happened 7 days before the negative test.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by gertrunde »

chrisseaton wrote: post #36
boringg wrote: post #19

More fuel to the fire - no reason he should get a pass when other people can't. Sorry - it's only tennis and he's trying to cheat to get in. This isn't to political leaders talking about the fate of their people.

> Sorry - it's only tennis Real question is why are the Australians running an international tennis competition in the first place?

I'd imagine the same reason why anyone runs an international tennis competition?

Although in this case at least they've been doing it for 117 years... so they do have precedent on their side.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by jmcs »

azangru wrote: post #31
boringg wrote: post #19

More fuel to the fire - no reason he should get a pass when other people can't. Sorry - it's only tennis and he's trying to cheat to get in. This isn't to political leaders talking about the fate of their people.

> and he's trying to cheat to get in Sorry, I don't really follow those sports news, so maybe I missed something; but how did he try to cheat? He applied to Australian Open for an exemption, and was granted an exemption [0]. How is this cheating? [0] - https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1478329044156309505

He got an exemption the Victoria state rules, this is the same as you getting a paper from Florida saying you can travel freely there and trying to enter the US based on that paper.

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Post by est31 »

Bhilai wrote: post #52
woodruffw wrote: post #21

Could someone double-check my understanding of this? Is the conclusion that Djokovic lied about the order (and specific dates) of his PCR tests, with the goal of entering Australia while still testing positive?

Yeah, thats right. Also some other alarming details like Novak knew he tested positive and yet instead of quarantining he went on to attend a gathering of children unmasked.

Wasn't that gathering on the Dec 17th date, one day after the claimed (but apparently predated) positive test on Dec 16th?

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by shtopointo »

alexk307 wrote: post #23

I honestly don't even care if he's vaccinated or not. He's one of the best Tennis players of all time, and if he wants to be unvaccinated, he should have the right. However, he doesn't have the right to provide a fraudulent test result in order to enter into a country with its own rules, and a Tennis tournament with its own rules. Covid or not, vaccine or not, this is a scummy move by one of the world's most influent…

Feel the same – even if this test investigation is true (looks true) he can plead ignorance of course by saying he doesn't know how that system works.

In effect, if his team + Serbian gov't manipulated the tests, I'm not sure what the recourse is, except for the Australian gov't to sue the Serbian gov't?

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by the_svd_doctor »

iechoz6H wrote: post #39
shmatt wrote: post #17

Good for Serbia for implementing some centralized system. A PCR test result in the U.S has absolutely no way of being verified, either negative or positive In Israel, which swabs every person who lands at the airport. There is a suspiciously steady stream of people flying in from the U.S who were negative before take off and positive 10 minutes after landing

Doesn't the thread suggest someone has fiddled the system on Djokovic's behalf? If that's the case then the centralized PCR verification system is nothing but a house of cards.

More that someone faked the paper certificates, imho.
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