I find it really irritating to see medical test results online for everyone to see.
It's only available since Djokovic provided the URL.... and lied about the dates it seems.
> URL
That leads to a page that anyone can see
Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#92I honestly don't even care if he's vaccinated or not. He's one of the best Tennis players of all time, and if he wants to be unvaccinated, he should have the right. However, he doesn't have the right to provide a fraudulent test result in order to enter into a country with its own rules, and a Tennis tournament with its own rules. Covid or not, vaccine or not, this is a scummy move by one of the world's most influent…
I completely agree, he's lying.
At the same time, the rules are ridiculous.
Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#93I honestly don't even care if he's vaccinated or not. He's one of the best Tennis players of all time, and if he wants to be unvaccinated, he should have the right. However, he doesn't have the right to provide a fraudulent test result in order to enter into a country with its own rules, and a Tennis tournament with its own rules. Covid or not, vaccine or not, this is a scummy move by one of the world's most influent…
Famous/rich people don't have to follow the same rules as the rest of us obviously.
Problem is – he did follow "the rules".
He just had root access at the gov't COVID testing system level.
Here's a separate thought experiment too:
We've all heard stories of people faking COVID tests. E.g. people don't want to pay the price to get tested, or they can't be bothered to go get tested, so they grab an old covid test, change the date and then go to the airport. The airline representative can only do a visual inspection of the document, and most of the time they have bigger issues than making sure each covid test is valid. For example, they're not going to call the doctor's office for each test.
This seems to be what Djokovic did, fake the COVID test. Hundreds / thousands of people break the rules with fake covid tests and they don't get caught, but he fakes it once and he gets caught.
With this framing, you could in fact say that he is under even more scrutiny than the rest of us. So, not only does he have to follow the rules, he has to follow them even more than we do.
Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#94More fuel to the fire - no reason he should get a pass when other people can't. Sorry - it's only tennis and he's trying to cheat to get in. This isn't to political leaders talking about the fate of their people.
This is basically the Canada problem: we have tough rules for 95% of people, but we exempt 5% from it, so every variant quickly ends up here uncontrollably anyway. Windsor Ontario has something like 1000+ health care workers commuting to the Detroit area that have been exempt from most entry test/vaccination/quarantine requirements. Same for truckers and flight crews and ~30 other groups. I think this is only changin…
I agree with you that Detroit/Windsor has been a sieve when it comes to sealing cases outside of the country, but considering that we've never come anywhere close to COVID zero, it's a minor concern at this time.
Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is basically the Canada problem: we have tough rules for 95% of people, but we exempt 5% from it, so every variant quickly ends up here uncontrollably anyway. Windsor Ontario has something like 1000+ health care workers commuting to the Detroit area that have been exempt from most entry test/vaccination/quarantine requirements. Same for truckers and flight crews and ~30 other groups. I think this is only changin…
Your entry tests aren’t strong enough to prevent 100% of cases anyway. You need a strict, no exceptions quarantine that lasts long enough to cover any incubation period. And even then, workers at the quarantine site might get infected. Probably not even worth attempting given our border has so many illegal crossings.
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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd imagine the same reason why anyone runs an international tennis competition? Although in this case at least they've been doing it for 117 years... so they do have precedent on their side.
I think the parent comment’s question is more along the lines of “if Australia is so deathly afraid of Covid, why are they hosting an international sporting event at this particular time?”
Ah, I see, that does make a bunch more sense!
Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#97The negative test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640187792DOH... The positive test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640524880jk8...
'Цовид-19' has to be one of the laziest transliterations I've ever seen. Coronavirus is spelled with an initial К in every Cyrillic-using language I'm aware of, not a Ц (ts) sound in English. It's basically a keyboard IME transliteration, since in Serbian, "c" would be the Roman equivalent of "ц".
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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#98Could someone double-check my understanding of this? Is the conclusion that Djokovic lied about the order (and specific dates) of his PCR tests, with the goal of entering Australia while still testing positive?
Well there is also two other options I can see, although I cannot say how realistic/likely these are: either the researchers „guessed“ wrong and the number in the url is no unix timestamp but just some random digits. Very unlikely imho, given how close the timestamp values are, but not impossible.
The other option would be that the pcr test was indeed taken on the 16. but only entered into the system 10 days later on the 26.
not sure if that is realistic.
Not saying it’s either of these, just that we cannot disregard these options imho.
Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?
#99More fuel to the fire - no reason he should get a pass when other people can't. Sorry - it's only tennis and he's trying to cheat to get in. This isn't to political leaders talking about the fate of their people.
If the vaccines don't prevent spread or contraction of the virus, why are people upset with him standing up against these pointless vaccine mandates?
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Plenty of honest people care. Especially Australian natives abroad who weren't able to see their families for months due to travel restrictions. People like Australian snooker player Neil Robertson who was in tears last year when his wife was able to get his father to fly to the UK to see him for the first time in over a year.
They should complain to their useless governments, not to a tennis player who gamed the system.