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Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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So I am actually from Edina, I don’t currently live there but my parents do. The context of this is a string of robberies and crimes not normally seen in this suburb. Edina is generally seen as a safe suburb, and all of the recent crime came on very sudden. I don’t agree with the program, but since I have some context around it, I thought I’d add to the conversation. [0]: https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/12/11/edi…

My family had a friend who was eating a restaurant with his wife at lunchtime. In broad daylight someone swiped their catalytic converter while they were eating. The suburbs are not nearly as safe as they were. My county has reported an explosion in carjackings and is considering boosting the police budget, and has referred to it as crime spillover.

There has always been some amount of crime in suburbs. A single instance doesn’t prove anything about whether the rate has gone up

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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I was in Minneapolis a few months ago and grabbed a Lyft. I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. They are organized and setup drop off points to box the cars in. The 'passanger' then holds them at gun point and another person gets in the driver seat. Stolen phones and credit cards a…

I live in the heart of south Minneapolis. I really doubt the claim that this is for organized crime for some kind of financial gain. There was an organized ring last year targeting high value cars, but it got busted pretty easily. From the news I’ve seen, it’s almost always joyriding teenagers and stolen vehicles used to commit some other crime. Uber/Lyft drivers are specifically targeted because they can be easily l…

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Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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So I am actually from Edina, I don’t currently live there but my parents do. The context of this is a string of robberies and crimes not normally seen in this suburb. Edina is generally seen as a safe suburb, and all of the recent crime came on very sudden. I don’t agree with the program, but since I have some context around it, I thought I’d add to the conversation. [0]: https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/12/11/edi…

I agree. Edina is a low crime area. This feels like a classic cake eater program.

I'll take it with grace, but I feel like "cake eater" should at least include EP and/or Minnetonka. Edina, as a whole, has become much more diverse and varied in income in recent years. Granted there are some hold out areas of affluent-bubbles, but as a whole, Edina isn't an outlier anymore.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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post #61

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My family had a friend who was eating a restaurant with his wife at lunchtime. In broad daylight someone swiped their catalytic converter while they were eating. The suburbs are not nearly as safe as they were. My county has reported an explosion in carjackings and is considering boosting the police budget, and has referred to it as crime spillover.

There has always been some amount of crime in suburbs. A single instance doesn’t prove anything about whether the rate has gone up

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Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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I live in the heart of south Minneapolis. I really doubt the claim that this is for organized crime for some kind of financial gain. There was an organized ring last year targeting high value cars, but it got busted pretty easily. From the news I’ve seen, it’s almost always joyriding teenagers and stolen vehicles used to commit some other crime. Uber/Lyft drivers are specifically targeted because they can be easily l…

People & especially the media love to play up this stuff. I lived two blocks away from Seattle's CHAZ during the 2020 BLM protests. Watching media coverage of my area compared to the actual experience of walking around and living there was a ridiculous juxtaposition. Even people I know who disapproved of the protests commented on the difference uneasily. I had numerous people from the east side of Lake Washington ref…

Is wikipedia inaccurate? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Occupied_Protest#...

Your personal experience may be less relevant than actual incidents in which people were shot.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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I was in Minneapolis a few months ago and grabbed a Lyft. I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. They are organized and setup drop off points to box the cars in. The 'passanger' then holds them at gun point and another person gets in the driver seat. Stolen phones and credit cards a…

I live in the heart of south Minneapolis. I really doubt the claim that this is for organized crime for some kind of financial gain. There was an organized ring last year targeting high value cars, but it got busted pretty easily. From the news I’ve seen, it’s almost always joyriding teenagers and stolen vehicles used to commit some other crime. Uber/Lyft drivers are specifically targeted because they can be easily l…

I lived in Downtown Minneapolis about 10 years ago in an "upscale" loft building. This was on the outside ring of development and somewhat near a lower income neighborhood. I was there for 18 months and during that time there were multiple home invasions, break ins, and one I personally had several very disturbing encounters. Now, when I revisit that same area it has further gentrified and feels much safer.

However, I still have many friends in Minneapolis and without exception they are all very negative on the overall direction of the city. It's been particularity intersting to watch friends of mine in that area who I considered pretty far left start spouting more and more "conservative" talking points after the riots and as they view their quality of life deteriorating.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a heads up, all of the "Crime Watch" for Minnesota and Minneapolis are run by a verifiable racist. Please ensure you review that source with awareness of the bias that is implicitly in every update from them. Source: https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/01/25/data-show-racial-bi...

If it's verifiable then why didn't you provide the evidence?

Okay.

https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/01/25/data-show-racial-bi...

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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As a heads up, all of the "Crime Watch" for Minnesota and Minneapolis are run by a verifiable racist. Please ensure you review that source with awareness of the bias that is implicitly in every update from them. Source: https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/01/25/data-show-racial-bi...

Why are you making this about race?

Even if that account doesn't have perfect coverage of all crimes committed, the incidents that are being report by that account DID actually happen, right?

As an aside, I've been very happy to see the strategy of calling everything you don't like "racism" lose its effectiveness over the past year.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in the heart of south Minneapolis. I really doubt the claim that this is for organized crime for some kind of financial gain. There was an organized ring last year targeting high value cars, but it got busted pretty easily. From the news I’ve seen, it’s almost always joyriding teenagers and stolen vehicles used to commit some other crime. Uber/Lyft drivers are specifically targeted because they can be easily l…

People & especially the media love to play up this stuff. I lived two blocks away from Seattle's CHAZ during the 2020 BLM protests. Watching media coverage of my area compared to the actual experience of walking around and living there was a ridiculous juxtaposition. Even people I know who disapproved of the protests commented on the difference uneasily. I had numerous people from the east side of Lake Washington ref…

I don’t know. On the one hand I get what you’re saying, that CHAZ was “peaceful” during the day in that it resembled a sort of low-tier art fair. On the other hand, it was an incredibly lawless hijacking of public property. Daily, thousands of people who use those roads or surrounding amenities (parks, businesses) were forced to find alternatives that took longer and were more crowded, right in the middle of the pandemic. This re-routing included public transit and emergency vehicles. This type of violent takeover can’t be justified by surface-level “peace” during the day in my opinion.

We should also remember that people died in CHAZ and its immediate surrounding areas. For example Travis Berge, who was a well-known repeat offender featured in the documentary “Seattle is Dying” (https://komonews.com/news/local/komo-news-special-seattle-is...), killed his girlfriend there (https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/09/17/blm-chaz-proteste...). The father of another man who was shot and killed there is now suing the city for negligently abandoning that area (https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-lawsuit-chop-chaz-zone-sh...).

Not to mention, CHAZ set the tone for how the city has been governed and its politics thereafter. In 2020 there were near-daily blockades of roads and tunnels, none of which were legal, and yet there was little consequence for any of the rioting. For example, one article noted that out of 261 rioters, only 8 faced charges, and exactly zero those faced any real consequence subsequently (https://komonews.com/news/local/city-attorney-charges-brough...). Meanwhile the city police was forced to build a concrete barricade around their main police station because of the lawlessness and city leadership forcing them to not take necessary actions. It got to the point where BLM protesters were setting white people’s houses on fire when they were sleeping in it (https://thepostmillennial.com/seattle-blm-activist-arrested-...), and staged protests outside white neighbors’ homes demanding they leave the neighborhood (https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-...). All this, became normalized and accepted by city government, in part because of CHAZ.

Fast forward to the present day and we see how much worse things have become. Hundreds of police officers have quit because of defunding and bad policy. Most will never come back no matter what bonuses are paid. The city has roughly half the number of police officers the average city would have per capita. Crime is everywhere. Businesses are shutting down due to it - look at the International District for a taste, where ironically minority business owners are the ones suffering. Trash is everywhere. RV ranchers are everywhere. Tents can be found in numerous parks and green spaces, leaving behind trash and needles. Property crime, like bike thefts, car breakins, car thefts, burglaries, and so on are common to the point no one bothers to even report them, since there’s no one to investigate and insurance requires a deductible anyhow.

You might call it a ridiculous juxtaposition. But CHAZ was exactly the harbinger and enabler that those complaining about it thought it would be. Seattle was a very safe and very clean city less than 10 years ago. I don’t recognize the city as it is today.

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