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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by dang »

sho wrote: post #180
dang wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please do not cross into personal attack. We don't want this kind of thing here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Dang, look at the context. I was simply repeating his self-assessment back at him, and trying to flip it with a positive message that one's circumstances of birth do not define one's potential - unless you let it (mental prison). I feel like you've taken the exact opposite reading from what was intended. That said, when people don't understand what you're trying to say, the fault lies with you. I'll try to rethink ho…

Putting a provocative spin ("you're trapped in a mental prison and proud of it") on someone's personal description and throwing it back at them is not likely to end well. When you add patronizing putdowns ("calm your jets") and outright slurs ("my poor white trash friend"—yes I know the GP used the slur, but it's very different when you use it), you're way into the territory of personal attack. That's no way to send a positive message.

I'm sure you had a positive intention, but intent doesn't communicate itself on the internet. The burden is on the commenter to disambiguate: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by dnissley »

ycombinete wrote: post #252
JimboOmega wrote: post #185

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It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

Don’t know about privilege, but it certainly smells like “doesn’t have children”

Just based on his twitter profile pic it appears he does indeed have at least one child

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by smsm42 »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #414
smsm42 wrote: post #404

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Yes "literally Hitler" - which you yourself admitted after some insistent prodding. And yes "no justification" - nothing in the article justified going strait into Nazi accusations. And I don't think a person who thinks it's ok to skirt the rules every time he wants should talk too much about "bad faith". But of course it all fits into the same "it's OK when I do it" mold, doesn't it?

> which you yourself admitted after some insistent prodding. Rubbish. After repeated attempts to put words in my mouth, which I did not rise to, you just declare the result anyway and launch into the argument anyway. It's not going to uncover any truth is it, just divert attention. Have a nice day!

You've risen to (or rather, descended to) mentioning Godwin's law - which specifically implies Nazi & Hitler comparisons, and "white nationalist and or Fascist". That's plenty enough. I know what you meant, you know what you meant, everybody knows what you meant. Own up to it.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by leecommamichael »

sho wrote: post #181
leecommamichael wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So you're trapped in a mental prison and proud of it? Starting your reply this way is not effective if your goal is changing minds. But it isn't, is it?

It is actually. And mental prisons are real, I was trapped in one for many years. I'll stipulate that i have to tweak the way I say things as it's not coming across the right way.

Understood, sorry my tone wasn’t great either on my response to you.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by memling »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #351
memling wrote: post #345

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> "Übermensch" is a much more evocative word than "overman". Try "Superman" instead. I'm not a historian, and I've wondered whether the historical background for the comic (conceived in the early '30s I think?) included some of the racial overtones that were more pervasive at the time. I don't know how influential Darwin and Galton were scientifically at the time, but even if they weren't current in scientific circle…

> and I've wondered whether the historical background for the (Superman) comic included some of the racial overtones that were more pervasive at the time. Maybe you should look into it some more then https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/jan/30/take-that-mr... https://screenrant.com/superman-secret-hebrew-name-jewish-ka... https://anfieldindex.com/geek/comics/superman-jewish-hero https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerr…

These were super interesting, thank you. Do you know if there are any references to them intentionally trying to subvert the Nazi idealism of the Übermensch?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by _l4lu »

dang wrote: post #168
nzmsv wrote: post #57

So this is the male version of the trophy spouse stereotype. Focuses on lifting and courting, has an education just to check off a box, writes pseudointellectual drivel to pass the time. Just as likely to be replaced by a fresher model in a few years.

Please don't post this sort of snarky internet attack to HN. It's not the culture we want here, and it's against several of the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Thank you for holding up a mirror, dang! Being publicly called out came as a bit of shock and really got me thinking.

The comment above really isn't me. Or rather, it is clearly me (since I posted it), but I don't want it to be.

Where I disagree with you is the implication that undesirable people bring bad behavior with them and pollute this site. I think it's the opposite: something about this site brings out the worst in otherwise reasonable people. Or maybe it's all social media.

In any case, the negative effects clearly outweigh the benefits from participation. This will be the last comment from this account; I'll send a request for deletion. Thank you for accidentally curing my HN addiction! I'll be mindful of the door on my way out :)

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by tejasvi88 »

NoLinkToMe wrote: post #310
TapWaterBandit wrote: post #88

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It is fairly easy to understand the hostile reaction to this. This guy did exactly what he said and something many, if not most, of the people who comment on HN would have the means to do (take some time off, live frugally on savings, attempt something he had passion for). His success was by no means guaranteed but he had the guts to take the risk and make it work. And as he said if worse comes to worst, he can alway…

> Most people are not risk-takers and are mainly status-seekers. They live their lives in ways to reflect this and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But there is always the niggling feeling for many (I am one) that while I may be making the "smart" choice the real reason I don't do something like this is that I am afraid. This very much resonates with me. I've built up healthy bit of equity (few hundred th…

The quote resonated with me so well that I decided to read the article. It is telling that individual failures do not make _risk_ undesirable if it strengthens the community as a whole. OP is not communicating information but emotion which is _much_ harder task with language defined by the common denominator and for me as a reader, he is quite skilled at it.
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