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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by barry-cotter »

mrjangles wrote: post #123
allendoerfer wrote: post #119

This article makes me anxious that I just might not have any interesting ideas to share with the world, that I might be stuck in my own perspective and that others will see right through all the fancy words I come up with to masquerade it. I think I might not be able to refrain from smiling when being called an intellectual. Only positive outlook: At least I do not think I will ever go as far as calling myself an int…

now that's an amusing take. But would you go so far as to call yourself an "elite" like this guy does... >This is a key part of what it means to be a responsible elite. The best description I ever heard of an "elite" is "A term used ironically to describe someone so out of touch with reality that they think people are using it to refer to them unironically."

Satya Nadella might not call himself an elite but he is one. Ditto Scott Alexander or Sarah Jeong or wide, wide swathes of other people, of different kinds, in different ways. People can be secure, honest and self-aware enough to accurately use a word to describe themselves.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by barry-cotter »

SkipperCat wrote: post #78
aeturnum wrote: post #49

So many wild things in this, but I was curious about this aspect: > It also helped that I was unemployed. I had time to court her properly. Does anyone find this kind of situation helps their relationship health? I've started relationships between jobs and started them with people who weren't working. It's not always long-term poison, but a big part of a relationship is figuring out if your two lives will work well t…

When men talk about courting a woman. It just sounds like they are either hunting an animal or performing a job. Seriously, if she (or he) likes you, then it just clicks. Talk of putting effort into it removes the humanity of the other person and also gives creepy people the perspective that someone "owes" them romance because they put the hours into it. It's just gross and misogynistic behavior.

I like how you perform the status move of saying that these things come to you without conscious effort, that you just are yourself and women are automatically attracted to you. Very subtle.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by allendoerfer »

sho wrote: post #154
mrjangles wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

now that's an amusing take. But would you go so far as to call yourself an "elite" like this guy does... >This is a key part of what it means to be a responsible elite. The best description I ever heard of an "elite" is "A term used ironically to describe someone so out of touch with reality that they think people are using it to refer to them unironically."

Around the time I signed up for this site, I thought the same as you. 10 years and a couple of successful startups later - perspectives change. I don't know if I'd actually unironically call myself "elite" but we need some name, right? The fact is there's a large number of very, very capable people out there who probably don't need to work for anyone else again if they don't want to. But they get jobs anyway because…

Do you think the people you are describing do not realize themselves that they do not need to work? You claim to be part of them, did you need that essay to realize it? You just stated you created a couple of startups during the last 10 years, so you seem to have already quit your job a long time ago.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by dang »

iandanforth wrote: post #47

Such drivel. If you really want to move people to act give them a clear roadmap for a lifestyle that supports years without meaningful income. Did you have $1M in savings? Did you have rich parents? Did you just live off your SO's income? Did you have financial dependants like children or elderly parents? I hope I'm wrong but this just reeks of intense privilege being misconstrued as nonconformity.

"When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. 'That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3' can be shortened to '1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by dang »

mmcgaha wrote: post #103

Growing up poor white trash gives me a completely different perspective and makes me crass enough to say go fuck yourself you entitled prick.

Could you please make your substantive points without fulminating or calling names?

Perhaps you don't feel you owe entitled pricks better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by dang »

sho wrote: post #158
mmcgaha wrote: post #103

Growing up poor white trash gives me a completely different perspective and makes me crass enough to say go fuck yourself you entitled prick.

Quoted post unavailable.

Please do not cross into personal attack. We don't want this kind of thing here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by leecommamichael »

sho wrote: post #158
mmcgaha wrote: post #103

Growing up poor white trash gives me a completely different perspective and makes me crass enough to say go fuck yourself you entitled prick.

Quoted post unavailable.

> So you're trapped in a mental prison and proud of it?

Starting your reply this way is not effective if your goal is changing minds. But it isn't, is it?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by dang »

nzmsv wrote: post #57

So this is the male version of the trophy spouse stereotype. Focuses on lifting and courting, has an education just to check off a box, writes pseudointellectual drivel to pass the time. Just as likely to be replaced by a fresher model in a few years.

Please don't post this sort of snarky internet attack to HN. It's not the culture we want here, and it's against several of the site guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by margalabargala »

allendoerfer wrote: post #119

This article makes me anxious that I just might not have any interesting ideas to share with the world, that I might be stuck in my own perspective and that others will see right through all the fancy words I come up with to masquerade it. I think I might not be able to refrain from smiling when being called an intellectual. Only positive outlook: At least I do not think I will ever go as far as calling myself an int…

To be fair, the author does not go so far as to call themself an intellectual either. The word is applied to the people they surrounded themselves with, and the project they started, but not to their own person.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by sidlls »

TapWaterBandit wrote: post #88
darkengine wrote: post #41

I know it's bad form to move so quickly into meta-discussion on here, but I feel a lot of the comments in the thread right now are endemic of a certain closed-mindedness that has, to me, come to define in part the Hacker News zeitgeist, which stands in something of a contrast to the site's supposed founding principle of intellectual curiosity. There is plenty of prior art in Western (and other traditions of) philosop…

It is fairly easy to understand the hostile reaction to this. This guy did exactly what he said and something many, if not most, of the people who comment on HN would have the means to do (take some time off, live frugally on savings, attempt something he had passion for). His success was by no means guaranteed but he had the guts to take the risk and make it work. And as he said if worse comes to worst, he can alway…

Asserting most people choose the "smart" path as much out of fear of failure as by making a calibrated decision seems more like projection than observation.
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