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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

genericuser314 wrote: post #351
WaitWaitWha wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should have zero homeless children. That said the definition of "homeless" in this count is extremely broad. For example if you live in a trailer park, you are considered homeless. Even if someone stays temporarily in a hotel or motel, for example because of a fire or flood, will be counted as homeless. Even wider scope, a child who "qualified moved" within the last 36 months is considered migratory i.e. homeless.…

Most facts are incomplete, it's almost impossible to give all the context to any given data point unless you just give people a URL and tell people to read for themselves. For example, it's an incomplete fact to say that "if you live in a trailer park, you are considered homeless", but thankfully you provided the link to the complete fact! From your source, a little more completeness for your fact: "living in ...trai…

> living in ...trailer parks... due to the lack of alternative adequate accommodations

Wouldn't this be most people living in trailer parks?

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by adventured »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #301
autarch wrote: post #268

Freddie de Boer just wrote something on his Substack about this - https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/many-kids-dont-have-a-w... The quick takeaway is that school is that for the most vulnerable kids, school is about a lot more than education. Taking school away from those kids can be much more damaging than many people realize. It seems to me like that right strategy would be to just say something like: We encourag…

>> The National School Boards Association says that 1,384,000 public school students are homeless. Holy fucking crap. (Sorry I don't normally react like that, and even given homeless might not be "living on street", that is a horrific statistic)

> even given homeless might not be "living on street", that is a horrific statistic

It would be a horrific statistic, if it were even remotely close to being accurate.

The US had 580,000 total homeless in 2020. [1] That's up from the recent lows before the pandemic when it was ~50,000 lower (and it's dramatically lower than prior to the start of the federal Housing First program).

If the NSBA is claiming 1.4 million, they're knowingly lying and it's despicable.

The US national homelessness rate is comparable to France and Canada.

https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/homeless...

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by throwawayForMe2 »

da39a3ee wrote: post #62

What’s Study Hall?

In this particular school it is just the name they use for the large auditorium when it is not being used as an auditorium. It is a large theater-like space with seating and a stage.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

tartoran wrote: post #340
WaitWaitWha wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should have zero homeless children. That said the definition of "homeless" in this count is extremely broad. For example if you live in a trailer park, you are considered homeless. Even if someone stays temporarily in a hotel or motel, for example because of a fire or flood, will be counted as homeless. Even wider scope, a child who "qualified moved" within the last 36 months is considered migratory i.e. homeless.…

Living in a hotel does qualify as homeless in my opinion. Same as trailer or anything that is not a fixed home. The definition of homeless doesn not equate to just to simply sleeping under the stars.

I grew up in West Virginia. A LOT of people lived in a trailer - as in they actually owned the trailer and in many cases the land, too (my parents).

Why does it make sense to count these people as homeless?

And even if you're renting... Why count someone who rents a trailer as homeless but not someone who rents an apartment?

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Post by thelock85 »

darth_avocado wrote: post #328
autarch wrote: post #268

Freddie de Boer just wrote something on his Substack about this - https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/many-kids-dont-have-a-w... The quick takeaway is that school is that for the most vulnerable kids, school is about a lot more than education. Taking school away from those kids can be much more damaging than many people realize. It seems to me like that right strategy would be to just say something like: We encourag…

It will be year 3 of covid and this is 100% the fault of the same people who have created every other problem in the education system: the administrators. There is no perfect way to open schools, that much is certain after looking at other countries. But looking at the state of things, it doesn’t even seem like people are trying. Japan has students come in on alternate days, so that the school can operate at 50% capa…

K-12 education in the U.S. is a perpetual blame game between admins, teachers, unions, and parents/guardians.

Take this parent comment and substitute “academic progress”, “student engagement”, “socio-emotional”, “school safety”, etc for “covid” and you’ve entered the Ed reform debate of the last 20-30 years.

Overcoming COVID in schools requires a collective problem-solving approach that is incompatible with the individualist (e.g. I’m just worried about my kid), class-segregated public school system that we’ve built.

Administrators are culpable but I think their role is akin to an engineer building questionable technology. Why should they buck the system that puts food on their families table, especially when there is no guarantee that doing things differently will lead to a different ultimate outcome?

Anecdotally this plays out in the increase of violence and violent threats toward principals, superintendents and school boards who are trying to institute science-backed rules for dealing with the virus.

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Post by gpm »

fourseventy wrote: post #347
gpm wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your link doesn't lead to any data, I'm assuming you meant to link to something like this instead: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page#daily Of course that says 44 deaths in the latest 7 day rolling average, not 38, and it loudly warns "Data from the most recent days are incomplete.", so presumably you meant to link to some other page... Your interpretation of the data is also just flat out wrong.…

Ok. this is from wsj.com "Omicron mortality is likely around 0.2%, roughly in line with seasonal flu." https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-variant-may-end-up-savi... Pretty close to my back of the napkin calculations.

I have no real problems with imagining that omicron's IFR is around that, it's a reasonable number. I just have severe problems with the way you reached it, it's pure coincidence that you reached something likely in the right order of magnitude.

Your article is in the opinion section, not written by any sort of doctor but some sort sort of investor (and incidentally substantial republican donor), that's not a source I would take seriously... Author's wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Arnott

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by corey_moncure »

megablast wrote: post #312
kodah wrote: post #211

> One student tested positive IN THE AUDITORIUM, and a few students started screaming and ran away from him. There was now a lack of available seats given there was a COVID-positive student within the middle of the auditorium. This is really awful behavior.

Why?? This is normal and natural.

Within 200 years, the madness we are living through will find its place in the history book next to the Salem witch trials and the War of the Worlds, that is, assuming we live through it.
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