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Post by Clubber »

WaitWaitWha wrote: post #324
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> The National School Boards Association says that 1,384,000 public school students are homeless. Holy fucking crap. (Sorry I don't normally react like that, and even given homeless might not be "living on street", that is a horrific statistic)

We should have zero homeless children. That said the definition of "homeless" in this count is extremely broad. For example if you live in a trailer park, you are considered homeless. Even if someone stays temporarily in a hotel or motel, for example because of a fire or flood, will be counted as homeless. Even wider scope, a child who "qualified moved" within the last 36 months is considered migratory i.e. homeless.…

>Even wider scope, a child who "qualified moved" within the last 36 months is considered migratory i.e. homeless.

This is what the definition of migratory child is.

(3) MIGRATORY CHILD.—The term ‘‘migratory child’’ means a child or youth who made a qualifying move in the preceding 36 months— (A) as a migratory agricultural worker or a migratory fisher; or (B) with, or to join, a parent or spouse who is a migratory agricultural worker or a migratory fisher.

It's not just that they moved (which is what I read from your comment) but they are a child who's parents are migratory workers and moved within 36 months.

>For example if you live in a trailer park, you are considered homeless.

This seems to check out. It's odd in the rest of the definition.

>(i) children and youths who are sharing the housing of other persons due to loss of housing, economic hardship, or a similar reason; are living in motels, hotels, trailer parks, or camping grounds due to the lack of alternative adequate accommodations; are living in emergency or transitional shelters; or are abandoned in hospitals;*

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by The5thElephant »

mlindner wrote: post #311

Seems to me that the school is unnecessarily scaring kids more than doing anything else. These teens have almost nothing to fear from covid. Most of the rest of the country (outside major cities) almost ignores covid exists. Good article on the subject: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/where-i-li...

Hate to tell you this, but this is not a good article on the subject. It was as performative as the mask wearing it complains about, and is oddly disconnected from reality considering how many deaths of people the author's age have happened in Michigan (Where he lives).

Sure the teens might be fine with Omicron (earlier variants had much higher chances of lasting health impact it appears), but not necessarily their parents or family back home.

Sure some fears and actions are overblown, but not to the degree being implied here.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by CogitoCogito »

xapata wrote: post #230
viraptor wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With omicron 2 doses still don't give you much protection. (25% effective) One booster is good, but still ~55% effective. (UK stats) Then you get immunocompromised people and older population where breakthrough infections are still very dangerous. I don't know if reducing the contract would change anything anymore. But in terms of spread via kids, don't think of just the working / school / bar-going population.

Much protection against infection or against hospitalization?

No vaccines protect against infection. Maybe you mean does it protect against asymptomatic infection? Or asymptomatic transmission? (I don't know how effective it is for either.)

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Post by another_story »

sylens wrote: post #331
darth_avocado wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be year 3 of covid and this is 100% the fault of the same people who have created every other problem in the education system: the administrators. There is no perfect way to open schools, that much is certain after looking at other countries. But looking at the state of things, it doesn’t even seem like people are trying. Japan has students come in on alternate days, so that the school can operate at 50% capa…

I don't fault any schools for struggling from March 2020 to June 2020, being thrown into the pandemic and remote learning with no warning. But I was absolutely astonished to see that most administrators took the summer of 2020 off, assuming that everybody would be back in school that fall and things would be normal. They wasted several months of time that could've been spent planning contingencies and how remote lear…

Where are you going to get a few million surrogates? A lot of solutions shared here fail to realize that the majority of US public school teachers are routinely spending their own money on basic classroom supplies.

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Post by ipaddr »

Dma54rhs wrote: post #307
kaba0 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vulnerable population is like half of the population.

Get vaccinated, lose weight. We're two years into pandemic and only fools haven't gotten the message.

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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by pjscott »

sangnoir wrote: post #261
ethanbond wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if decades of malinvestment in those institutions and routing our most educated people to editing spreadsheets with dollar signs on them or selling ads ( Now With Code! ) has had negative consequences for our society.

When school budgets are cut and underpaid teachers leave the industry "Oh, that's just the free hand of the market." When a multilateral, societal disaster strikes and schools struggle with contradicting demands: "What an inept bunch we have running these schools" Very few are being honest on why the kids have to be in school (so it doesn't disrupt parents' labor), so it's framed as "think of the children" when TFA s…

> When school budgets are cut and underpaid teachers leave the industry "Oh, that's just the free hand of the market."

Are school budgets being cut? I keep hearing people saying they are, but the US Department of Education says the opposite [1]: that per-pupil spending (adjusted for inflation) has increased greatly over the past century or so, and its trajectory has almost always been upward. What's the deal?

(My best shot at a steelman is that either (a) the money has been disappearing down a mysterious rabbit hole and so teacher pay hasn't risen as much as the raw budget numbers would lead you to think, or that (b) teachers are underpaid relative to what they could get in other occupations that have seen more per-worker productivity growth, i.e. the Baumol effect.)

[1] https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d18/tables/dt18_236.55.a...

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Post by fourseventy »

gpm wrote: post #247
fourseventy wrote: post #13

How many students that got sick are experiencing symptoms more severe than the common cold? It seems like the chaos is caused by the attempted solutions to covid and not the actual symptoms? Edit: 7 day rolling average of COVID cases according to https://www1.nyc.gov/ is 32k cases per day with 38 deaths. So there is a 0.1% mortality rate.

Your link doesn't lead to any data, I'm assuming you meant to link to something like this instead: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page#daily Of course that says 44 deaths in the latest 7 day rolling average, not 38, and it loudly warns "Data from the most recent days are incomplete.", so presumably you meant to link to some other page... Your interpretation of the data is also just flat out wrong.…

Ok. this is from wsj.com "Omicron mortality is likely around 0.2%, roughly in line with seasonal flu." https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-variant-may-end-up-savi...

Pretty close to my back of the napkin calculations.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by mlindner »

The5thElephant wrote: post #342
mlindner wrote: post #311

Seems to me that the school is unnecessarily scaring kids more than doing anything else. These teens have almost nothing to fear from covid. Most of the rest of the country (outside major cities) almost ignores covid exists. Good article on the subject: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/where-i-li...

Hate to tell you this, but this is not a good article on the subject. It was as performative as the mask wearing it complains about, and is oddly disconnected from reality considering how many deaths of people the author's age have happened in Michigan (Where he lives). Sure the teens might be fine with Omicron (earlier variants had much higher chances of lasting health impact it appears), but not necessarily their p…

My parents are from Michigan and I'm visiting them here. People get covid all over the place but people just don't care about it. That's really how it is here.

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Post by fatheart »

kodah wrote: post #211

> One student tested positive IN THE AUDITORIUM, and a few students started screaming and ran away from him. There was now a lack of available seats given there was a COVID-positive student within the middle of the auditorium. This is really awful behavior.

They're teenagers, probably acting dramatic and trying to be funny

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Post by technothrasher »

double_nan wrote: post #313
autarch wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not following. The vast majority of people in school are younger than 18. I agree with you that it should be fine for most parents to leave an older kid (say 14+?) at home alone. But again, some kids just want to go to school to get some damn food, regardless of age!

I’m mostly curious about why the maturity period was prolonged by 5-10 years from what the human race had 100 or 1000 years ago. I’m not talking about education but the transition from youths to adulthood.

Because we continue to gain a better understanding of how people mature. We now recognize that the period of adolescence is a long one, and that life outcomes are typically better when you do not push people directly into adult roles in society immediately after they reach puberty.
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