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Post by _bfhp »

crate_barre wrote: post #242

What this little pretentious kid doesn’t get is that public school has always been like this and the majority of kids wing it through K-12 (many even wing it through a bullshit degree in college). There has never been serious learning going on, and kids love any and all disruptions to class. Bomb threats is one that kids in my school used to call in as pranks daily when I was in school. For weeks everyone missed the…

Agree with a lot of this but there's something to be said about 1. daily routine and morale, having a normal routine is a good thing for everyone, even kids who don't "succeed" in academic measures at all, and 2. losing years of time of socializing in-person where you make lifelong friends or have experiences that form your place in the world.

I had no friends in school until 10th grade when I joined a club that somewhat let me be myself and have fun with other weird kids. If that was taken away from me soon after I joined it would have been pretty terrible!

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by pianoben »

parkingrift wrote: post #78
beardedwizard wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are failing to consider the spread to vulnerable populations where the symptoms are fatal. Omicron is not mild, people with vaccines have mild symptoms due to its efficacy. All these kids come home to families with parents and grandparents. They also have young siblings.

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There is no vaccine for children under five. As long as we've got children in our lives, we all need to go out of our way to protect them - even those of us with masks and vaccines are getting Omicron.

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Post by lokar »

voisin wrote: post #130
parkingrift wrote: post #74

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Death is only one outcome. Other consequences (e.g. scarred lung tissue) also exist, and don’t fall neatly in the stats that are regularly discussed.

99+% of people with polio had mild symptoms

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by fxtentacle »

crate_barre wrote: post #242

What this little pretentious kid doesn’t get is that public school has always been like this and the majority of kids wing it through K-12 (many even wing it through a bullshit degree in college). There has never been serious learning going on, and kids love any and all disruptions to class. Bomb threats is one that kids in my school used to call in as pranks daily when I was in school. For weeks everyone missed the…

They got all the learning disruptions without any of the fun.

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Post by _bfhp »

alfor wrote: post #88

Everyone in the north, take vitamin D and vitamin C. It help fight every respiratory infection Source: medcram, Dr in pulmonary diseases

Seconded, I ordered more D3 gummies online recently and they came pretty quick (Nature's Way brand are vegan)

We introverts are staying inside even _more_ than usual so it's probably a very good thing to do

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Post by throw_nbvc1234 »

voisin wrote: post #130
parkingrift wrote: post #74

Quoted post unavailable.

Death is only one outcome. Other consequences (e.g. scarred lung tissue) also exist, and don’t fall neatly in the stats that are regularly discussed.

Good thing omicron appears to not be effecting the lungs as much. Death is only one outcome but improvements in death rates require an underlying mechanism which can impact those other consequences too. To your point, you shouldn't look at one piece of data in isolation but you also don't have to assume the worst case either; it is possible that things are getting better.

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1211792/v1

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Post by lokar »

zaroth wrote: post #99
exogeny wrote: post #87

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It’s a good thing I guess that all kids are orphans and don’t know and never interact with someone who might be old or immunocompromised.

Those people can vaccinate and do any number of measures to protect themselves as they see fit. As you can see it’s not a zero sum game. The precautions you are implying must be taken to protect a hypothetical outlier is essentially shutting down all learning at this school, and likely many others like it. I would suggest on balance, and particularly in light of how virulent and mild Omicron is, it’s time for the “pr…

The vaccine does not work for people with suppressed immune systems

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Post by lokar »

parkingrift wrote: post #98
exogeny wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a good thing I guess that all kids are orphans and don’t know and never interact with someone who might be old or immunocompromised.

Thankfully we have vaccines.

Transplant patients don't

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by crate_barre »

fxtentacle wrote: post #254
crate_barre wrote: post #242

What this little pretentious kid doesn’t get is that public school has always been like this and the majority of kids wing it through K-12 (many even wing it through a bullshit degree in college). There has never been serious learning going on, and kids love any and all disruptions to class. Bomb threats is one that kids in my school used to call in as pranks daily when I was in school. For weeks everyone missed the…

They got all the learning disruptions without any of the fun.

Where do you get these ideas from? Simply not having to commit to class work is fun. You can literally play a video game if you are remote too. It’s a dream come true for these kids.

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Post by gpm »

da39a3ee wrote: post #189
Glyptodon wrote: post #124

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Traditionally, a "class" where you study, do homework, etc., but which in practice is usually a lot of so nothing and goofing off. I think it's a way to get funding for educational minutes without actually having to have anything taught for a period.

OK thanks. Does it (despite the name) take place in a conventional class room? Just wanted to check that the implications wasn't that it was particularly bad for covid transmission, like a big crowded gymnasium or something.

> Does it (despite the name) take place in a conventional class room

I think usually yes, otherwise you call it something like a "spare" (i.e. a period where you don't have a class and aren't monitored).

I suppose "hall" probably traditionally refers to something like a "great hall" or "meeting hall" not a "hallway", i.e. a relatively large room.

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