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Vulnerable population is like half of the population.
The vaccine is free
I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
#242What this little pretentious kid doesn’t get is that public school has always been like this and the majority of kids wing it through K-12 (many even wing it through a bullshit degree in college). There has never been serious learning going on, and kids love any and all disruptions to class.
Bomb threats is one that kids in my school used to call in as pranks daily when I was in school. For weeks everyone missed the first 3 periods of the day. Everyone loved the disruption. I can absolutely promise you nothing is bringing more joy to the kids than this COVID fiasco.
Now, is education really being missed here? Not really. The kids that were going to excel anyways have somewhat involved parents that will expect them to prep and score respectable grades in standard tests/classes (your ap classes, SATs). Those kids already know they have to study more than whatever bullshit goes on in school. The parents/kids relying on the school system to help them achieve were never going to achieve just due to that reliance (it’s always been the case in public school).
So what is this stupid post about? It sounds like business as usual to me.
Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, yes because spreading to parents and family who might well die is irrelevant if the students are likely to not die...
The evidence that child activity affects the spread of covid among adults is thin. > Data now suggest that many changes to school routines are of questionable value in controlling the virus’s spread. Some researchers are skeptical that school closures reduce Covid cases in most instances. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/briefing/american-childre...
The evidence is always nice and comfortable as long as YOU aren't the one being affected by it. I contracted COVID from my kid, who got it from another kid in her class who went to school for 3 days after a positive test because that kid wasn't showing symptoms and their parents had nobody to watch them.
Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
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Yes they’ll go home to their vaccinated parents. What edge case are you trying to solve by remaining in a state of hysteria?
What about the ~25% of US adults that are not vaccinated? As far as I know they are at least as likely as vaccinated adults to have school age children. Even taking into account that they probably have a higher chance of homeschooling, that still leaves a lot of kids in public schools whose parents are not vaccinated. Are you in the "they've had enough time to get vaccinated, so if they haven't done so yet let them g…
> What about the ~25% of US adults that are not vaccinated? Are you in the "they've had enough time to get vaccinated, so if they haven't done so yet let them get COVID" camp?
How is this even a question? Of course they've had enough time, and they've made their choice to face COVID with their natural immune system. I'm talking here about people who still purposely refuse the vaccine, and I'm not talking about people who are unable to get it for medical reason.
As a society, we are not obligated to take measures to prevent COVID from reaching people who refuse the main act that will truly protect themselves.
Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
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I'm not afraid. I am triple-vaxxed not for myself but out of solidarity for those around me. I am simply at the end of my patience with people going to protests clogging my city and creating politicians using the greenpass and constant checks and testing to create a divide. mandatory vaccination will get rid of surveillance solutions like the Greenpass while also protecting everyone. there can still be an exemption i…
Huh? You're leaving out some massive yet important parts of your argument here. It is a complete non-sequitur to go from you, personally, being perfectly safe and therefore mandatory vaccination is necessary to protect everyone. Fact is that mandatory vaccination doesn't seem to do much to change the risk to society at large. Coronavirus is tearing through fully-vaccinated Australia at a rate which suggests vaccines…
I mostly agree. I think it is certain that vaccinations slow the spread somewhat; probable that they're stopping medical services from becoming overwhelmed; and almost certain that they will not eliminate covid from circulating.
You'll probably catch covid, whether vaccinated or not. Your elderly relatives will probably catch covid, whether you and they are vaccinated or not.
They'll probably catch it even if everyone on the planet become vaccinated tomorrow.
Vaccination is simply one tool to moderate the effect. It's wonderful that we have them, but having 20% of the population stay unvaccinated is not going to drastically affect the spread of the disease.
Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
You need to relax. There is no legitimate reason to force people to undergo any medical procedure.
Legitimate reason number 1: based on your low effort reply, you’re unable to understand how not to pass on a highly communicable disease that causes misery, disruption, and death. Don’t post that anymore.
How rude you are.
Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
#247How many students that got sick are experiencing symptoms more severe than the common cold? It seems like the chaos is caused by the attempted solutions to covid and not the actual symptoms? Edit: 7 day rolling average of COVID cases according to https://www1.nyc.gov/ is 32k cases per day with 38 deaths. So there is a 0.1% mortality rate.
Your link doesn't lead to any data, I'm assuming you meant to link to something like this instead: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page#daily Of course that says 44 deaths in the latest 7 day rolling average, not 38, and it loudly warns "Data from the most recent days are incomplete.", so presumably you meant to link to some other page...
Your interpretation of the data is also just flat out wrong. You can't divide cases from today by deaths from today and get a case mortality rate, because deaths lag cases very significantly (2-8 weeks was a number studies were showing early on, not sure if there's a more accurate one since). A month prior to the latest day with a deaths number (01/04) the 7 day rolling average of cases in NYC was 2404 (data from my link above). That's also an inappropriate number to use, given that the recent giant spike in cases means that a disproportionate number of deaths will be from relatively recent cases, but it serves to demonstrate the point about your derivation being completely inappropriate.
A 0.1% mortality rate is also really bad if you're talking about students, but we're not, the data your citing is for the entire population... for the entire population it's just bad.
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That 573 number is died "with", not "of" covid.
It's unfortunately that the "with" vs "of" question has been politicized and corrupted.
The standard line on the far-right is that the millions of COVID deaths were actually attributed to the co-morbidities. They pretend that people died of obesity and not COVID, because COVID hits the obese worse.
Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about the ~25% of US adults that are not vaccinated? As far as I know they are at least as likely as vaccinated adults to have school age children. Even taking into account that they probably have a higher chance of homeschooling, that still leaves a lot of kids in public schools whose parents are not vaccinated. Are you in the "they've had enough time to get vaccinated, so if they haven't done so yet let them g…
In the nicest way possible, fuck those people. They’ve had plenty of time to get vaccinated. It’s not our responsibility to tip toe around irresponsibility.
Some people cannot get vaccinated.
A friend of mine can't because she's immunocompromised. Their family has done their part by staying home and finding new activities for their kids to accomplish in the house (which, fortunately for them, is pretty easy because they're huge nerds and aren't hurting for money). They're lucky because her husband is a self-employed remote contractor and she is a remote special education teacher.
Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control
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Please, enough with the hyperbole. No one suggested anything of the sort.
TBH the thought has crossed my mind many times lately. At this point, I strongly believe we're all going to get Omicron (and the next variant) eventually, and it's just a matter of time. So, more and more I just want to get it over with. Except for the fact that ICUs would overflow, it would be fantastic to just have a "once and done" event. Let (and encourage) COVID to sweep undeterred, and all the vaccinated adults…
I'm sure the antivax people would prefer this approach, but killing off 5 or 6 million people (based on a 1.4% CFR) in the US is fucking insane.