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Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination
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#22> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead [...]. This policy appropriately places the responsibility for this healthcare decision with the individual or family. I'm sorry, no. This only works in countries like Japan.
Are you implying the decision to be vaccinated for covid-19 should lie elsewhere? With the state?
Yes, of course. Austria is doing that starting Feb 1.
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#23> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead [...]. This policy appropriately places the responsibility for this healthcare decision with the individual or family. I'm sorry, no. This only works in countries like Japan.
UK done that, at least that's what Boris Johnson said.
Yes, the UK in general is not forcing anything, and for a lot of purposes a negative test is as good as a vaccine passport.
And in general it seems to have worked pretty well in the UK, as the country is now around 85% double vaccinated and 60% triple vaccinated (in people over 12).
This could be down to the fact that while we British love to complain about the NHS, people trust the motives those who work for it and the motives of the health system as a whole, even if we don't always trust the way the system is set up or that it will always give the best outcomes.
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#25Wait, this is the same country that has government-enforced weight and size restrictions to ensure people are not fat? (look up metabo law)
You get weighed and measured every year as part of the medical but there are no consequences for being fat. There may be a few notes on the report if your BMI is abnormal (by Japanese standards) but these are for you alone.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's supposed to work in America, one of the freest countries in the world that prides itself in personal liberty. After all, it's a country where anyone can say just about anything and also carry a gun. (If we fix our stance on drugs, stop interfering with women's rights, and get our policing in check, we'll be pretty much on track for being a perfect place for the individualist.) The far left and far right are both…
It would never work as well in America. Voluntary measures tend to work well in places where people have a reasonable trust in their government, scientific and medical authorities etc. When the government of Japan says "Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent.", they ca…
That's putting things pretty charitably for a society that pushes conformity to the point of it being fairly unhealthy.
Japanese peoples' trust in govt for 2020 was actually less than that of the US's. Their vaccination rates are more likely due to their community-oriented culture rather than their trust in government officials.
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#27> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead with this balanced and ethical approach. Yes! For the love of god yes. Finally some fucking common sense.
What works in Japan doesn't work everywhere else...common sense is hard to find.
Common sense works everywhere regardless of culture, politics, or anything else. Facts don’t care about a culture or political view. Japan is following facts, most other countries are following fear and or corruption.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's supposed to work in America, one of the freest countries in the world that prides itself in personal liberty. After all, it's a country where anyone can say just about anything and also carry a gun. (If we fix our stance on drugs, stop interfering with women's rights, and get our policing in check, we'll be pretty much on track for being a perfect place for the individualist.) The far left and far right are both…
It would never work as well in America. Voluntary measures tend to work well in places where people have a reasonable trust in their government, scientific and medical authorities etc. When the government of Japan says "Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent.", they ca…
I did before the CDC waffled on mask guidance. I know why they did it, but it seriously hurt credibility for a whole lot of folks and will have long term ramifications. It became something to latch onto, and it was obvious almost immediately as it happened.
If the Republicans were pro-vaccination, the numbers would change overnight. The reason they're not is because the establishment threatened the ego of Trump, and he couldn't have any group challenge his ego.
This is all political fighting, and it's stupid.
Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination
#30> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead [...]. This policy appropriately places the responsibility for this healthcare decision with the individual or family. I'm sorry, no. This only works in countries like Japan.
It's supposed to work in America, one of the freest countries in the world that prides itself in personal liberty. After all, it's a country where anyone can say just about anything and also carry a gun. (If we fix our stance on drugs, stop interfering with women's rights, and get our policing in check, we'll be pretty much on track for being a perfect place for the individualist.) The far left and far right are both…
"Far-left liberal" is an oxymoron.
Liberalism is an economically right-wing, pro-capitalist ideology (this part is incompatible with leftism!), that is socially liberal (this part isn't).
In the US, due to the two-party system, liberals and leftists are forced to share a party, but that doesn't mean they want the same things.