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Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead [...]. This policy appropriately places the responsibility for this healthcare decision with the individual or family. I'm sorry, no. This only works in countries like Japan.

It's supposed to work in America, one of the freest countries in the world that prides itself in personal liberty. After all, it's a country where anyone can say just about anything and also carry a gun. (If we fix our stance on drugs, stop interfering with women's rights, and get our policing in check, we'll be pretty much on track for being a perfect place for the individualist.) The far left and far right are both…

It would never work as well in America.

Voluntary measures tend to work well in places where people have a reasonable trust in their government, scientific and medical authorities etc.

When the government of Japan says "Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent.", they can be confident that the people of Japan will take rational, sensible, well-informed action. A large proportion will get vaccinated purely because the government recommend it.

Look me in the eye and tell me you believe the same about the US populace.

Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead [...]. This policy appropriately places the responsibility for this healthcare decision with the individual or family. I'm sorry, no. This only works in countries like Japan.

Are you implying the decision to be vaccinated for covid-19 should lie elsewhere? With the state?

Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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> They recently labeled the vaccines with a warning about myocarditis and other risks.

CDC is monitoring, https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/my...

2021 news reports of athlete injury, https://airtable.com/shrbaT4x8LG8EbvVG/tbl7xKsSUIOPAa7Mx

Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's supposed to work in America, one of the freest countries in the world that prides itself in personal liberty. After all, it's a country where anyone can say just about anything and also carry a gun. (If we fix our stance on drugs, stop interfering with women's rights, and get our policing in check, we'll be pretty much on track for being a perfect place for the individualist.) The far left and far right are both…

Some of the hyper-online left believe some of things, sure. It's way less monolithic in meatspace.

The voices and apparent influence of the hyper-online (in general) has been amplified by the social isolation imposed by pandemic response. People spend less time with others "in meatspace" and a substantial portion of their online socialization is on social media platforms where the hyper-online dominate.

Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead

In English we have the adage, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

In Japan there is the adage, "The tall nail gets pounded down."

People in the US aren't declining the vaccine because they are told to. They are declining the vaccine because of misinformation and tribalism.

Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead [...]. This policy appropriately places the responsibility for this healthcare decision with the individual or family. I'm sorry, no. This only works in countries like Japan.

UK done that, at least that's what Boris Johnson said.

Re: Japan’s Vaccination Policy: No Force, No Discrimination

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> Other nations would do well to follow Japan’s lead [...]. This policy appropriately places the responsibility for this healthcare decision with the individual or family. I'm sorry, no. This only works in countries like Japan.

To be more precise, you don't need a mandate if 80% of the population got vaccination with encouragement only.
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