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Thank you California! I now know where I will be spending the years of my life when I have no income and insanely high medical bills. Gonna stick in PA with our 3.07% while I am earning bank and healthy though.
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Typical the argument is that a single payer system is to avoid waste. California Government would be the perfect candidate for this since they are so fiscally responsible and do such an amazing job managing their finances. God Speed.
California had a $75 billion surplus last year.
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Why do you believe single-payer is a bad idea? The model works very well in most European countries.
Most european countries have fewer poor people by percentage than the USA. Single payer "works" in europe in the sense that you still end up having to pay out of pocket if you want not-crap (private) care.
It's a huge step up for everyone that is unemployed or on crappy minimum-wage insurance. Even if it's "only" on par with the worst of the US system, it still grants you the freedom to switch jobs and a better negotiating position for other benefits. And everyone that has better insurance can presumably just pay out of pocket to get better-than-minimum.
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> my actual change is net zero, in most cases It's designed to be a progressive system, unlike current health insurance, so almost nobody's change will be net zero, even assuming the cost of providing the service is the same (which, who knows). Low-income earners can probably expect to pay considerably less, and high-income earners can expect to pay considerably more; only people right at the crossover point would ex…
Even better, on average it will be net zero. Since some high earners skew the average considerably, it will be net positive for a significant majority of taxpayers.
I am US Citizen living in CA, while also have lived (and am citizen) of other 3 countries, Canada as one prior to US. To remind all, Michael Moore's Sicko documentary is huge misrepresentation of how good socialized HC is, while it did point huge issues with the current privatized/greed-based private US HC with crooked HC+insurance industry. So as not all is BW, from my experience with Canadian HC, socialization of t…
I don't know if most people realize it, but there is definitely a tradeoff between 100% equal access and quality. But it does seem that's a tradeoff that many people want to make so idk
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I pay $1.3k/month for private insurance for myself + my husband, so it would be an easy yes vote for me.
I pay less than half of that. So in effect you’re seeking to drive up my costs in order to drive yours down. I can at least understand why you would want to, but I won’t be your ally.
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Except UK is a disaster, 6M people waiting for service. Some longer than a year. Heartbreaking stories if you are paying attention.
How many millions are waiting in the US because they can't afford care?
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It’s the preexisting injury part that jacked up the prices. They aren’t allowed to deny enrollment or charge significantly higher premiums if some was has cancer or something. And that totally makes sense morally, but that causes the risk burden to be offset on the aggregate of the subscribers resulting in higher premiums for everyone. It would be kind of similar to forcing auto insurance carriers to afford coverage…
I've NEVER seen an employee denied (or asked) about their medical conditions ever. The enrollment paperwork to the carrier is like basic address / name / effective date for coverage. That is it.
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> Y'all actually have one of the best systems in the world, Germany has more ICU beds than the US.
> Germany has more ICU beds than the US. That would be shocking if true, which it does not appear to be. Germany has around 32K ICU beds. US has around 96K ICU beds. Germany has slightly more per-capita than the US. (387 vs 294 per million inhabitants) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_hospital_...