Whatever they're doing it's american-centric. Identify "Crosswalks". What the hell is a crosswalk "School bus" - what's the difference between a bus currently serving a school and another one? "Show taxis", there are no black vehicles listed at all
Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
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Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#72First, I’m going to teach you to fish. Go to hCaptcha’s website, then scroll to the footer. Click around on the about links. It’ll reveal their business model. This trick also works for other businesses and NGOs. Now, if we look at https://www.hcaptcha.com/labeling we can tell they make money by labeling data sets for a fee. So as a guess, there’s someone out there that needs to improve computer vision detection of t…
Many a time I receive multiple challenges on a site despite having selected all images perfectly, and can't help but wonder, "Hey, are they getting me to do more work than necessary because they're running behind on their labelling backlog?". There's definitely a conflict of incentives in this case. If you're a website owner, you're better off choosing a different service which doesn't have adverse incentives, otherw…
Take archive.is/archive.fo/archive.today, for example. If you're using Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1) or iCloud Private Relay, and you visit https://archive.is/, you'll get what looks like a Cloudflare screening page. It's not, though: that page is part of archive.is and is served to Cloudflare DNS users (which includes iCloud Private Relay users)--the use of reCAPTCHA in place of hCaptcha is a giveaway. You can complete the captcha as many times as you like, but you'll never get in.
And how many times have we completed a captcha on a form only to have it throw another captcha in our face without so much as an error message? Sometimes it's just lousy code.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
When they start doing captchas along the lines of "check all pictures of potential terrorists" we'll know they're training data sets for military drone manufacturers.
That wouldn't work well. I was in Texas during 9/11 and they were firebombing all the hispanic people's cars because the locals don't really have a good eye for different ethnicities. Its pretty much black/white/terrorist and hasn't improved all that much in the time since. Austin has grown a lot since I lived there are a lot of people from outside Texas have moved there so I'm sure the culture has changed - but when…
> they were firebombing all the hispanic people's cars
Weird. This is sort of unbelievable. I think I know many Hispanics who lived in ATX during 2001, but they’ve never mentioned their car being firebombed.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recall some controversy a couple years ago over suspicions that defense contractors were using them to train weapons systems. A few people got captchas asking them to identify helicopters.
I'd love to identify helicopters. I do get planes now, but was it specifically military helicopters? I like getting to identify basic things like cars, airplanes and trains with hCaptcha. It's like a picture book for adults, and feels strangely pleasant compared to other captchas.
https://old.reddit.com/r/google/comments/5udzy4/hey_google_e...
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many a time I receive multiple challenges on a site despite having selected all images perfectly, and can't help but wonder, "Hey, are they getting me to do more work than necessary because they're running behind on their labelling backlog?". There's definitely a conflict of incentives in this case. If you're a website owner, you're better off choosing a different service which doesn't have adverse incentives, otherw…
Whoever made this new captcha I’m seeing starting to see everywhere: https://imgur.com/a/hoyjctl Thank you! itsso much easier than being a labeling bot for self driving cars.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#76First, I’m going to teach you to fish. Go to hCaptcha’s website, then scroll to the footer. Click around on the about links. It’ll reveal their business model. This trick also works for other businesses and NGOs. Now, if we look at https://www.hcaptcha.com/labeling we can tell they make money by labeling data sets for a fee. So as a guess, there’s someone out there that needs to improve computer vision detection of t…
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#77Whatever they're doing it's american-centric. Identify "Crosswalks". What the hell is a crosswalk "School bus" - what's the difference between a bus currently serving a school and another one? "Show taxis", there are no black vehicles listed at all
Or failing 3 in a row because 3 motorcycles or scooters are considered a bike. We will easily win AI uprising.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#78You're helping train self driving car models. https://www.ceros.com/inspire/originals/recaptcha-waymo-futu...
But why the boats then? Are there self rowing boats?
On a more serious note, I can't shake the impression that would be a logical next step for all long and medium distance freight, be it road, water, air or space. Whether it's a good or mature idea is anyone's guess.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
That wouldn't work well. I was in Texas during 9/11 and they were firebombing all the hispanic people's cars because the locals don't really have a good eye for different ethnicities. Its pretty much black/white/terrorist and hasn't improved all that much in the time since. Austin has grown a lot since I lived there are a lot of people from outside Texas have moved there so I'm sure the culture has changed - but when…
This sounds nothing like my experience living in Austin 2009-2017. In fact, this is unrecognizable. > they were firebombing all the hispanic people's cars Weird. This is sort of unbelievable. I think I know many Hispanics who lived in ATX during 2001, but they’ve never mentioned their car being firebombed.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?
#80Here are a couple of examples:
https://bearbin.net/images/captcha/1.png
https://bearbin.net/images/captcha/2.png