Russia sends troops to Kazakhstan to put down deadly uprising

Post by washadjeffmad » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:17 PM UTC

fivea wrote: post #57

snickerer wrote: post #22

I traveled many post-Soviet countries in the past years with my old camping car. My personal impressions in Kazakhstan were frightening. A deeply corrupt state, much worse than Russia. Aggressive armed bandits in police uniform tried to rob me several times. Kazakhstan is true mafia state where every part of the regime tries to enrich itself at the expanse of the people. In contrast to the rich oil elite there are th…

> But why is such a dysfunctional dictatorship so stable? (...) I believe the answer is: it is backed by the West because a stable dictator in Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan guarantees the oil flow. And yet, it's Russia and it's strong-arm tactics that are desperately trying to keep Kazakhstan's regime in power. Think about it: Russia is even sending it's paratroopers to Kazakhstan to stomp out unrest. Not the US. Not the…

Post by scotty79 » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:18 PM UTC

fivea wrote: post #81

scotty79 wrote: post #77

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Do you assume Putin and western corporations are antagonistic? Putin is just closest strong arm and most appropriate politically.

> Do you assume Putin and western corporations are antagonistic? Please don't try to change the subject. Putin sent Russia's paratroopers to Kazakhstan to use them against Kazakhstan's civilian population to quelsh unrest. It's not the US, Switzerland, Finland, the EU, nothing. This is Russia intervening in Kazakhstan to preserve Russia's interests, and no amount of whataboutism changes this.

Post by nradov » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:24 PM UTC

washadjeffmad wrote: post #82

fivea wrote: post #57

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> But why is such a dysfunctional dictatorship so stable? (...) I believe the answer is: it is backed by the West because a stable dictator in Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan guarantees the oil flow. And yet, it's Russia and it's strong-arm tactics that are desperately trying to keep Kazakhstan's regime in power. Think about it: Russia is even sending it's paratroopers to Kazakhstan to stomp out unrest. Not the US. Not the…

What makes you feel that economic interests are always the same as political interests? Why doesn't Russia kill all its Sturgeon so American Royalty can't eat Russian caviar? Maybe things are not as simple as Fox News makes them.

Post by NicoJuicy » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:27 PM UTC

CommanderData wrote: post #73

cmod wrote: post #37

My own experience in Kazakhstan a few years ago was amazing — kind, generous people. I had the most surreal (but standard) Russian Bath experience: sitting with a bunch of naked folks as they self-flog with branches in rooms so hot you needed wool caps to keep the top of your head from singeing. When I was getting dressed a huge guy next to me said something in Russian, I was certain I had committed some bath faux pa…

Reading and watching about these places on YouTube (BaldAndBankrupt) and recently numerous videos about Pakistan, Afghanistan, India. I can't help but feel modern Western society has lost and forgotten something within. It's hard to describe but easier described as nearest to changes in warmth and compassion. It's only getting worse and these old places it seems ingrained.

Post by marcosdumay » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 1:30 PM UTC

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #18

brnt wrote: post #11

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It's very weird to see the President argue 'foreign interests' spark the unrest, and then promptly invites a foreign army to quell it. Who's falling for that?

Foreign army in this context is just using a treaty you signed with an ally to request assistance. It’s as “foreign” as any NATO country’s army to another.