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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by bsaul »

Semaphor wrote: post #14
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #4

omicron has solidly taken over Vancouver BC. Anecdotal evidence: in the past two years (except this past week) I have only known 1 person who got covid. In the past week I know over 20 people who have got covid. I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of the end of covid lockdowns. omicron is taking the world by storm and I wouldn't be surprised if the entire world gets it in the next few weeks.

I still know no one in Germany who ever had covid, only one person in the US and one in South Africa (who also died from it), so I’m not sure about that.

died from omikron ?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by johnchristopher »

c-fe wrote: post #15
rocqua wrote: post #12

I thought that a second variant was essentially an independent stochastic process. If I have that right that suggests that, had Omicron not occurred Colorado would currently be Corona-free. I doubt that is true though. Maybe some of the people who now have Omicron would have gotten Delta later on? I don't see how one variant can truly extinguish another variant otherwise. But I am hoping someone here knows better tha…

How do you see them as independent stochastic processes? Assuming one person can only be infected with 1 variant at a time, then they are not independent, instead they would be negatively correlated since the more people have omikron the less people can get delta. If instead one person can have more than 1 variant at a time, and they are really independent, then your conclusion is incorrect since a 100% prevalance of…

There's something I don't understand: why can't we be infected with different variants at the same time ? And does it extend to viruses (eg: can't get infected with flu if currently fighting measles) ?

I read someone in Israel got `flurona`, flu + covid (https://www.timesofisrael.com/flurona-israel-records-its-fir...).

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by Semaphor »

bsaul wrote: post #21
Semaphor wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still know no one in Germany who ever had covid, only one person in the US and one in South Africa (who also died from it), so I’m not sure about that.

died from omikron ?

Nah, covid in general. Clarified.

edit: Please don’t downvote the user, it was a relevant question and I only clarified my comment afterwards.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by prox »

ror_shubham wrote: post #16
akmarinov wrote: post #6

If it’s milder than Delta - then that’s good right? Or do the increased cases lead to more hospitalizations than Delta?

Its milder than Delta but way more transmissible. The more people get this, more will be the chances of a new variant which can be more deadly/transmissible.

It’s possible, but most coronaviruses do not seem to have followed this in the past, nor flu-based viruses. More deadly variants usually don’t win it from less deadly in a selection process.

However it is important as the WHO recommends to do way more to export vaccines to countries that need it. Not just developed countries to prevent the chance of new variants.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by trhway »

Gigachad wrote: post #20
ror_shubham wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its milder than Delta but way more transmissible. The more people get this, more will be the chances of a new variant which can be more deadly/transmissible.

If this is all so likely and rapid, why does this not happen constantly every single year? Why did it take so long for one particular virus to leak when it seems like with so many humans we should see some super virus come up constantly.

>Why did it take so long for one particular virus to leak

why long? The EcoAlliance's gain-of-function (with the "Human Subjects Included" checked) NIH grant for Wuhan started in 2014, the human-specific DNA modifications of the virus were described in the EcoAlliance's 2018 DARPA grant proposal, and in the end of 2019 - voila!

With regard to omicron - we may be also witnessing the continuation of the same magic of the fast "gain-of-function" by the virus :

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

"By inserting this particular snippet into itself, Omicron might be making itself look "more human," which would help it evade attack by the human immune system, said Venky Soundararajan of Cambridge, Massachusetts-based data analytics firm nference, who led the study posted on Thursday on the website OSF Preprints.

This could mean the virus transmits more easily, while only causing mild or asymptomatic disease."

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by NicoJuicy »

Semaphor wrote: post #14
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #4

omicron has solidly taken over Vancouver BC. Anecdotal evidence: in the past two years (except this past week) I have only known 1 person who got covid. In the past week I know over 20 people who have got covid. I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of the end of covid lockdowns. omicron is taking the world by storm and I wouldn't be surprised if the entire world gets it in the next few weeks.

I still know no one in Germany who ever had covid, only one person in the US and one in South Africa (who also died from it), so I’m not sure about that.

No post body was provided.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by hereforphone »

I've been traveling internationally over the past couple of day. Every person seems to have the sniffles, or to be coughing. I haven't noticed this since covid began, presumably because the masks, sanitizer use, and social distancing have kept the cold and flu down.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by hereforphone »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #4

omicron has solidly taken over Vancouver BC. Anecdotal evidence: in the past two years (except this past week) I have only known 1 person who got covid. In the past week I know over 20 people who have got covid. I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of the end of covid lockdowns. omicron is taking the world by storm and I wouldn't be surprised if the entire world gets it in the next few weeks.

Those 20 people are fine, right?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by zmmmmm »

johnchristopher wrote: post #22
c-fe wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you see them as independent stochastic processes? Assuming one person can only be infected with 1 variant at a time, then they are not independent, instead they would be negatively correlated since the more people have omikron the less people can get delta. If instead one person can have more than 1 variant at a time, and they are really independent, then your conclusion is incorrect since a 100% prevalance of…

There's something I don't understand: why can't we be infected with different variants at the same time ? And does it extend to viruses (eg: can't get infected with flu if currently fighting measles) ? I read someone in Israel got `flurona`, flu + covid ( https://www.timesofisrael.com/flurona-israel-records-its-fir... ).

well, at least with the different coronavirus strains, they are similar enough that getting one is effectively like an immunisation against all the other strains. Now you could probably get two strains simultaneously if you were independently infected separately by both at the same time. Delta, however, isn't quite common enough for that to be likely I think.
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