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We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by zekica »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #64
mike_d wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They make a point to say that low-latency, global CDN is a priority for them Which, franky, is dumb. File downloads depend on throughput, not time to first byte like a small javascript file. Once bits start flowing it doesn't matter if they travel half way around the globe. It is like saying you are trying to optimize an ocean cargo ship for acceleration time.

> Which, franky, is dumb. File downloads depend on throughput, not time to first byte like a small javascript file. Once bits start flowing it doesn't matter if they travel half way around the globe. Round-trip latency has a significant impact on TCP throughput. It's not just about time to first byte. They're also not a static file serving website. If they were just serving static files and they didn't care about lat…

You can use different TCP congestion control algorithms, not just cubic. BBR2 has no issues with high RTT even with packet loss and is fair to other TCP streams.

It serves 25Mbps stream in real time to users in Japan and the US from a data-centre in Europe with no issues.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by darkwater »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #100
superkuh wrote: post #93

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> If you're going to centralize in Cloudflare you might as well just skip the hosting the website bit entirely and make a business account on Facebook as your host. These responses are getting bizarre. Facebook pages have nothing to do with web hosting or Cloudflare. Also, hosting on a single server in a single datacenter is, literally, the definition of centralized. Cloudflare distributes the content to a huge numbe…

No. The definition of "centralized" that matters here is "everyone hosting their website in the same place, using the same vendor".

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by twblalock »

When I see per month or per day stats I get suspicious.

Let's say a month has 30 days -- 5 million views a months is 166,666k per day, 6944 per hour, 116 per minute, and ~1.92 per second.

1.92 qps.

Of course it's not expensive, it's a tiny amount of traffic!

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by bvm »

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hm

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by dna_polymerase »

nix23 wrote: post #235
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #226

Honestly you can go very far with unmettered data plans. We consume 2GB/S, maxed out, which ends up being 5184TB a month. We have millions on users a day, all on a streaming video platform. It cost less than $2K/Month. The cloud is crazy expensive. Private servers are beasts, and they are cheap. Of course, for this price, you don't have redundancy and horizontal scaling. You also don't have to maintain and debug a sy…

Thanks! Exactly that! I always tell that customers and their response is: -But google/facebook/amazon... -But uptime needs to be 99.999 -But everyone uses cloud Most businesses are not a trading-market, have less then 100 peoples (aka you are probably not another amazon), and no bonus using a cloud/kubernetes etc. But it's the same old story, in the 00's i used the ~same arguments against buying OracleDB ;)

Either your compute demand is highly elastic, or your revenue and profit scale with usage, otherwise the Cloud is probably not for you. At least not in the longterm or for running websites.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by goodpoint »

willcipriano wrote: post #25

If you are worried about getting your blog post to the top of Reddit or Hacker News (I've never been there myself); you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. It's the Bart Simpson method of highly scalability[0], for static content you can have global datacenter coverage in a couple minutes or so if you u…

> pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare

Once cloudflare captures the web market we'll all pay back with interest. They are not a charity.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by janto »

MichaelRazum wrote: post #230
throw14082020 wrote: post #188

> To avoid this problem in the future, I decided to splurge a bit and go for a cloud solution where I wouldn’t have to worry about reliability, performance, scaling or integrity ever again: Google Firestore. > Google Firebase is nice and convenient, but it is quite expensive. We could investigate some other managed database options in future. I've only seen people get annoyed with Firestore over time, and migrating o…

What is a good solution compared to firebase ? I mean for a new project, alone something like user handling, registration, email sending, recovering passwords seem to cost some effort. Also be able to react to events, is kind of trivial in firebase. So is it really a bad choise (for the beginning)? Later you can always try to optimize.

Many use Firebase for auth and user management only.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by PUSH_AX »

twblalock wrote: post #243

When I see per month or per day stats I get suspicious. Let's say a month has 30 days -- 5 million views a months is 166,666k per day, 6944 per hour, 116 per minute, and ~1.92 per second. 1.92 qps. Of course it's not expensive, it's a tiny amount of traffic!

To look at a different angle, I would imagine the traffic isn't evenly distributed, and part of being happy with your offering will be if things don't grind to a halt during peaks.
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