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We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by tshaddox »

metadat wrote: post #77
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #74

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> I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. > Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN. Why not go back to the $40/month plan and spend $20/month on Cloudflare Pro? I was able to load photopea.com in about 5000ms, uncached. That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. A CDN would cut that load time massively, and it…

Honest question: Why is everyone pushing CentralizedFlare pro so hard in this thread?

Is there a decentralized solution you would recommend that’s better?

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by ignoramous »

busymom0 wrote: post #76
ignoramous wrote: post #75

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Yes, you could. The last time someone I know spoke to them, the standard enterprise plans started at $5000/mo and got you some very nice freebies. Cloudflare's also announced managed WebRTC APIs (in closed beta) which look promising for creating meeting rooms ala Zoom.us. I imagine, these are already available to tech-shops on enterprise plans. Though, mux.com is decent too, from what I've heard; for certain workload…

> mux.com First time hearing of them (due to my own ignorance probably). Any details on them?

I have never used mux.com (I have used Vimeo, AWS Elemental, and Cloudflare Streams in the past), but they are fairly well-known as the founders created the very popular video.js library. One key thing that differentiates mux.com from others is they're multi-cdn unlike AWS Elemental / Cloudflare Streams, say.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by superkuh »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #63
willcipriano wrote: post #25

If you are worried about getting your blog post to the top of Reddit or Hacker News (I've never been there myself); you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. It's the Bart Simpson method of highly scalability[0], for static content you can have global datacenter coverage in a couple minutes or so if you u…

> you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. I get the impression that a lot of the critics in this thread don't really understand Cloudflare, how cheap it is, or even the concept of CDNs in general. $20/month for Cloudflare Pro is a steal for what you get. Spinning up a dedicated server in a single datace…

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by ignoramous »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #80
metadat wrote: post #77

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Honest question: Why is everyone pushing CentralizedFlare pro so hard in this thread?

Cause it solves real issues for dirt cheap.... I mean really cold cache from the above user is at 5000ms that's pretty horrible. When I tried I got 2800ms. Take a look around it seems to be mostly from fetching static content which is a classic problem CDNs solve.

> Cause it solves real issues for dirt cheap...

One doesn't even need pro. In our use, Cloudflare's pages.dev and workers.dev serves single-digit TB traffic with triple-digit million hits at $30/mo. We pay $0/mo for origin servers since there aren't any.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by bcjordan »

Fun read, love finding those combination perf/cost wins!

Have you considered using Firestore in Datastore mode[0]? It might make all of your reads free[1], though migrating could be a project.

[0] https://cloud.google.com/datastore/docs/firestore-or-datasto...

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/a/53313540

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by dragonwriter »

jaytaylor wrote: post #8

How do 5M page views consume 80TB of traffic? That sounded like a lot, but calculates out to 1,600KB per page view. That's a lot of JS and images on every page :) A few years ago when I hosted what felt to me like a popular site, I was serving serving > 150K page views a month from a 1.5Mbps adsl uplink. With that said, back then you could gzip everything and there was no letsencrypt or CloudFlare walls across the bo…

> How do 5M page views consume 80TB of traffic? That sounded like a lot, but calculates out to 1,600KB per page view.

No, that's low by an order of magnitude. It is 16MB (16,000KB) per page view.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by celim307 »

IvanK_net wrote: post #51

I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.

Wow I’ve been using photopea forever and I’m a little starstruck to see you in the comments. Wanna say thank you for all the years your tool helped me

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

superkuh wrote: post #93
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #63

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> you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. I get the impression that a lot of the critics in this thread don't really understand Cloudflare, how cheap it is, or even the concept of CDNs in general. $20/month for Cloudflare Pro is a steal for what you get. Spinning up a dedicated server in a single datace…

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> If you're going to centralize in Cloudflare you might as well just skip the hosting the website bit entirely and make a business account on Facebook as your host.

These responses are getting bizarre. Facebook pages have nothing to do with web hosting or Cloudflare.

Also, hosting on a single server in a single datacenter is, literally, the definition of centralized. Cloudflare distributes the content to a huge number of edge nodes which are spread around the world. How did we end up in this situation where people are calling the distributed solution centralized and suggesting a centralized solution as the alternative?

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