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We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by nemothekid »

jason0597 wrote: post #62

I often wonder why so many companies seem to spend tens of thousands of dollars per month on AWS services for their hosting. If most web apps nowadays are just CRUD apps, then why would you need to spend more than €300/month on hosting? All you'd need is data and the website itself, right? I'm currently clicking through various European hosting services and they seem to offer great dedicated servers at good prices. I…

>If most web apps nowadays are just CRUD apps, then why would you need to spend more than €300/month on hosting? All you'd need is data and the website itself, right?

Because most web apps aren't simply CRUD apps. It's a meme said by armchair engineers who believe they could build twitter in weekend.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by jimsimmons »

eastdakota wrote: post #57
tyingq wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare is currently operating at a close to break-even loss.

Sure, because we're hiring like crazy to build new things. As we said during our last earnings call, we intend to stay at break even as long as we can achieve extraordinary revenue growth and continue to deliver innovative new products. The more relevant number for this comparison would be our gross margin — much we have to spend on things like bandwidth and servers to service our customers divided by the revenue tho…

Do you see you offering more dynamic hosting in the future? Things like elastic databases, GPUs etc

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by AussieWog93 »

bytebln wrote: post #137
AussieWog93 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a good service to do this automatically (my site uses DigitalOcean and CloudFlare free), or even test how much load you can handle? I tend not to realise when my site goes viral, as I'm based in Australia whereas my largest audience is in b the US (and I'm a bit of a Luddite!)

https://loader.io is a nice tool for that

Legend, thanks!

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by tluyben2 »

nemothekid wrote: post #151
jason0597 wrote: post #62

I often wonder why so many companies seem to spend tens of thousands of dollars per month on AWS services for their hosting. If most web apps nowadays are just CRUD apps, then why would you need to spend more than €300/month on hosting? All you'd need is data and the website itself, right? I'm currently clicking through various European hosting services and they seem to offer great dedicated servers at good prices. I…

> If most web apps nowadays are just CRUD apps, then why would you need to spend more than €300/month on hosting? All you'd need is data and the website itself, right? Because most web apps aren't simply CRUD apps. It's a meme said by armchair engineers who believe they could build twitter in weekend.

Here you confuse 'most apps' with Twitter and Facebook. Most apps are crud apps; there are some apps that are not. Those apps are the most used, but they are not most apps by app count.

Only people here on hn seem to think that everyone is slinging k8s and 1000 layers of microservices to build the most complex things on earth; the rest is earning their paycheck by building some forms in php.

Sadly many here are overengineering crud apps and then somehow making them out to be something more than crud apps because somewhere in the future they might be (probably not); as in, you can build 'a twitter' in 1 weekend and it will even probably handle good volume of users ( more than Twitter did at startup; it was often down or very slow) etc if you just take postgres with php on a few $/mo server. It is a crud app at that time (the flow for these user authored posts is built into every trivial and complex framework these days). Also it will most likely be bankrupt in a few months as that is what happens to startups; I rather spend money on building the business first and then scaling the tech; which is exactly what Twitter did. On hn it seems a lot of people work backward in that regard but that probably has also something to do with being a techie and VC interest in scalable tech.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by chillfox »

alphachloride wrote: post #124

I tried looking, and I find it very irritating that in that whole web page, there is not one single link in the menu/footer/sidebar to polyhaven.com home page so I can click and discover what it actually is. Not one. This occurs on many company blogs as well operating under a subdomain like blog.whatever.com To be clear, this is a very tangential and irrelevant nitpick and I understand it does not contribute to the c…

Not having a link forces people to navigate to the page on their own. For a lot of people that takes the form of a Google search. Lots of people googling specifically for your brand increases your search rankings.

Or so goes the theory anyway.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by killingtime74 »

the8472 wrote: post #140
willcipriano wrote: post #25

If you are worried about getting your blog post to the top of Reddit or Hacker News (I've never been there myself); you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. It's the Bart Simpson method of highly scalability[0], for static content you can have global datacenter coverage in a couple minutes or so if you u…

You know what isn't served from a CDN? Hacker News. If HN can handle the traffic then so should be some static blog site.

Hacker news is text only though

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by wyager »

acidburnNSA wrote: post #149
willcipriano wrote: post #25

If you are worried about getting your blog post to the top of Reddit or Hacker News (I've never been there myself); you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. It's the Bart Simpson method of highly scalability[0], for static content you can have global datacenter coverage in a couple minutes or so if you u…

I've had my personal $5/mo Digital Ocean VPS Wordpress site hit the top of HN before. I kept an eye on htop, but it handled it just fine. Exciting times.

As long as you have a decent backend it's no problem. If you're using some python/ruby/JS thing you're probably going to need some kind of reverse proxy to keep up with top of HN. If you're using a Haskell/Rust/C++/etc. compiled backend you're probably fine.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by wyager »

killingtime74 wrote: post #156
the8472 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know what isn't served from a CDN? Hacker News. If HN can handle the traffic then so should be some static blog site.

Hacker news is text only though

Most blogs should be as well.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by moralestapia »

eastdakota wrote: post #57
tyingq wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare is currently operating at a close to break-even loss.

Sure, because we're hiring like crazy to build new things. As we said during our last earnings call, we intend to stay at break even as long as we can achieve extraordinary revenue growth and continue to deliver innovative new products. The more relevant number for this comparison would be our gross margin — much we have to spend on things like bandwidth and servers to service our customers divided by the revenue tho…

It's super nice that you're here and your transparency is appreciated, but don't waste time in people like GP. Just walk your way and don't mind the naysayers.

My two cents from a regular guy to a billionaire, :).

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by Ameo »

jjcm wrote: post #103

On a similar note - does anyone have a recommendation for a budget cdn for video? I don’t necessarily need encoding capabilities (though it’s a plus), but rather high storage/bandwidth options.

BunnyCDN (mentioned in the blog post) has this functionality. It is mentioned in the blog post and they're using it for image processing, but it works for videos too.

I use it myself, but just as a normal static file CDN, but they have dedicated tabs in their UI for video stuff. Their bandwidth pricing is also very reasonable ($5/TB with their "bulk" option and $10/TB for standard)

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