I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.
Photopea is excellent. thank you sincerely.
Regards oftentimes forgotten Linux user
We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cause it solves real issues for dirt cheap.... I mean really cold cache from the above user is at 5000ms that's pretty horrible. When I tried I got 2800ms. Take a look around it seems to be mostly from fetching static content which is a classic problem CDNs solve.
> Cause it solves real issues for dirt cheap... One doesn't even need pro . In our use, Cloudflare's pages.dev and workers.dev serves single-digit TB traffic with triple-digit million hits at $30/mo. We pay $0/mo for origin servers since there aren't any.
Unique Visitors 358.45k, Total Requests 22.13M, Total Data Served 3 TB
from cloudflare + a scaleway stardust for 1$ per mo.
Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup, I’m still wrapping my head reading these comments, “bizarre” is the word I was looking for.
Conflating cloudflare's distributed architecture with distributed control is just silly. It is extremely centralized control and the CEO of Cloudflare has already terminated accounts of a business he had a personal distaste for on whim. "Non-commercial" might be a better way to understand this point of view. Instead of prioritizing profit (the reason for people using cloudflare, it's cheap and good) the idea is to mi…
But then again, if Cloudflare terminates your account, the website is still up; it's just going to be slower, and you're going to pay more to serve the same number of users. There's no lock-in there that I can see.
Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#134I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.
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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#135I tried looking, and I find it very irritating that in that whole web page, there is not one single link in the menu/footer/sidebar to polyhaven.com home page so I can click and discover what it actually is. Not one. This occurs on many company blogs as well operating under a subdomain like blog.whatever.com To be clear, this is a very tangential and irrelevant nitpick and I understand it does not contribute to the c…
I had no problems navigating there. Every single link in the hamburger lead me to polyhaven.com
Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#136I often wonder why so many companies seem to spend tens of thousands of dollars per month on AWS services for their hosting. If most web apps nowadays are just CRUD apps, then why would you need to spend more than €300/month on hosting? All you'd need is data and the website itself, right? I'm currently clicking through various European hosting services and they seem to offer great dedicated servers at good prices. I…
> Is it because everyone is writing their stuff on node.js, putting 500kb of JS in every web page they serve, putting Docker everywhere when a chroot would suffice, microservices, Kubernetes, or hell even writing SAPs when we don't need them?
My response may come off as rude, but that's not the intention. From the above quote you've vastly over simplified all but the most simplistic environments. Someone could run all of the above for well under 10k month - those are not the reasons why costs are high
> putting 500kb of JS in every web page they serve
that's not much and CDNs serve that without issue or significant cost
> putting Docker everywhere when a chroot would suffice
Docker does not have much overhead over chroot with a large drop in security/isolation
> microservices
there are good and bad ways to do this - does not need to cost much. saying "microservices" is so broad to have no meaning in this context
> Kubernetes
think about why someone might run kube. Again, not that expensive unless you're really small where having master nodes would have a big impact on costs
> or hell even writing SAPs when we don't need them?
Do you mean SAP? SAP is the largest non-American software company by revenue. I don't think anyone likes working with SAP. You think people use it for without reason? There are reasons. Think about what those might be
But those are just details - when building anything of a decent size, nothing is a simple CRUD. There are always exceptions, limitation, biz logic, migration issues, schema issues. I don't care if you use Postgres, Mongo, Kafka or $SOMETHING_COOL
Then there's data retention. It's very very easy to keep PB of data in s3 or other data stores for biz or compliance needs
Then AWS gives IAM, which is very helpful in teams > 5
Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#137If you are worried about getting your blog post to the top of Reddit or Hacker News (I've never been there myself); you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. It's the Bart Simpson method of highly scalability[0], for static content you can have global datacenter coverage in a couple minutes or so if you u…
Is there a good service to do this automatically (my site uses DigitalOcean and CloudFlare free), or even test how much load you can handle? I tend not to realise when my site goes viral, as I'm based in Australia whereas my largest audience is in b the US (and I'm a bit of a Luddite!)
https://loader.io is a nice tool for that
Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. > Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN. Why not go back to the $40/month plan and spend $20/month on Cloudflare Pro? I was able to load photopea.com in about 5000ms, uncached. That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. A CDN would cut that load time massively, and it…
> That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. So what? Unless your website is offering some superficial junk that can easily be found elsewhere, you’re not going to lose a user. For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there.
Almost a perfect quote of GM in the 80s when Japanese cars took over it's market share
> For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there.
if there is't one now, there will be. Besides, with a little CDN and tweaking you improve your users enjoyment. Why not?
Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
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> If you're going to centralize in Cloudflare you might as well just skip the hosting the website bit entirely and make a business account on Facebook as your host. These responses are getting bizarre. Facebook pages have nothing to do with web hosting or Cloudflare. Also, hosting on a single server in a single datacenter is, literally, the definition of centralized. Cloudflare distributes the content to a huge numbe…
Because cloud flare administratively centralizes a solution that was previously distributed. Guess what percentage of websites Cloudflare could take down in minutes if they decided? It doesn’t matter if cloudflare itself uses a distributed architecture. It’s a massive central point of failure/malice.
Then... use something else? Cloudflare doesn't do anything to lock you in
Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400
#140If you are worried about getting your blog post to the top of Reddit or Hacker News (I've never been there myself); you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. It's the Bart Simpson method of highly scalability[0], for static content you can have global datacenter coverage in a couple minutes or so if you u…
You know what isn't served from a CDN? Hacker News. If HN can handle the traffic then so should be some static blog site.