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We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by jeppesen-io »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #74
IvanK_net wrote: post #51

I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.

> I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. > Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN. Why not go back to the $40/month plan and spend $20/month on Cloudflare Pro? I was able to load photopea.com in about 5000ms, uncached. That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. A CDN would cut that load time massively, and it…

Yeah, I opened web dev tools in firefox and looked at the request times. Seems strange not to use a CDN to improve the load time with a CDN, particularly with users in a different continent

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by jeppesen-io »

metadat wrote: post #77
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. > Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN. Why not go back to the $40/month plan and spend $20/month on Cloudflare Pro? I was able to load photopea.com in about 5000ms, uncached. That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. A CDN would cut that load time massively, and it…

Honest question: Why is everyone pushing CentralizedFlare pro so hard in this thread?

What would you propose as an alternative?

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by kortilla »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #74
IvanK_net wrote: post #51

I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.

> I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. > Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN. Why not go back to the $40/month plan and spend $20/month on Cloudflare Pro? I was able to load photopea.com in about 5000ms, uncached. That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. A CDN would cut that load time massively, and it…

> That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken.

So what? Unless your website is offering some superficial junk that can easily be found elsewhere, you’re not going to lose a user.

For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by alphachloride »

I tried looking, and I find it very irritating that in that whole web page, there is not one single link in the menu/footer/sidebar to polyhaven.com home page so I can click and discover what it actually is. Not one.

This occurs on many company blogs as well operating under a subdomain like blog.whatever.com

To be clear, this is a very tangential and irrelevant nitpick and I understand it does not contribute to the content of the website itself.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by kortilla »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #63
willcipriano wrote: post #25

If you are worried about getting your blog post to the top of Reddit or Hacker News (I've never been there myself); you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. It's the Bart Simpson method of highly scalability[0], for static content you can have global datacenter coverage in a couple minutes or so if you u…

> you can have a very modest web server or even a pay per request serverless sort of thing and pay $20 real quick to Cloudflare if you happen to get popular. I get the impression that a lot of the critics in this thread don't really understand Cloudflare, how cheap it is, or even the concept of CDNs in general. $20/month for Cloudflare Pro is a steal for what you get. Spinning up a dedicated server in a single datace…

> I get the impression that a lot of the critics in this thread don't really understand Cloudflare, how cheap it is, or even the concept of CDNs in general.

You’re talking past the point here. It doesn’t matter how cheap if you’re fundamentally opposed to enabling cloud flare to reach its meat hooks further into the Internet.

This is no different from arguments about embedding google analytics or “just paying for windows” instead of using Linux.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by kortilla »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #100
superkuh wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> If you're going to centralize in Cloudflare you might as well just skip the hosting the website bit entirely and make a business account on Facebook as your host. These responses are getting bizarre. Facebook pages have nothing to do with web hosting or Cloudflare. Also, hosting on a single server in a single datacenter is, literally, the definition of centralized. Cloudflare distributes the content to a huge numbe…

Because cloud flare administratively centralizes a solution that was previously distributed.

Guess what percentage of websites Cloudflare could take down in minutes if they decided?

It doesn’t matter if cloudflare itself uses a distributed architecture. It’s a massive central point of failure/malice.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by jjcm »

celdon25 wrote: post #85

Awesome! I hope this means more competitors for YouTube soon, featuring videos that aren't just related to fringe politics.

Self shill: I'm working on https://non.io, a reddit-meets-patreon platform that supports up to 8k video. Planning on launching in the next couple of months (just about got the stripe integration working for auto-payouts). One of my main reasons for making it was I was annoyed at YouTube lately. Would love feedback as I'm aiming to be a competitor.

You can sign in with

Username: hn@hn.com

Password: hackernews

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The site is currently in demo mode, and the db will be wiped before launch - feel free to sign in and poke around. Also it's hosted in Australia currently, so site may be a little slow for those in the US.

Source is here: https://github.com/jjcm/soci

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by systemvoltage »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #26

Question: I want to make a live video streaming website a la Twitch.tv. How much would CloudFlare charge me to stream 8 Mbps to ~80,000 viewers for 4 hours?

I want to pile up: Why is it that bandwidth today is so expensive for things like video? Is there some kind of a good-ol-boys network of companies that are preventing from making bandwidth so cheap its not worth metering? What does the future hold?

I am asking this because YouTube seems to have a massive monopoly both on technology as well as content/audience/network-effects. Even if you can get all the people of Youtube to shift over, you still need to solve the problem of bandwidth and the costs associated with that.

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