Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites • Hacker News Board

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by vestrigi » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

groby_b wrote: post #259

vestrigi wrote: post #127

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Nice if you get the recipes right on the first time but tedious if you like to update recipes and add comments. At least for handwriting perfectionists.

A handwritten recipe without annotations and butter stains is simply a recipe you don't like very much ;) Which, to me, means digital is a bad format - because I'm not going to annotate in my text editor while juggling three burners and the cake in the oven.

Yes, after all the recipe should be a tool and not a piece of art that's never going to benefit anyone because it shall not be stained. I probably wouldn't bother with updating small changes in my text editor afterwards either!

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by jka » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 7:58 PM UTC

JonathanBuchh wrote: post #30

It would be amazing if there was something that would convert recipes to the format used on Cooking For Engineers. It’s so intuitive and easy to read. I never want to look at steps to make a recipe again. Scroll to the bottom to see what I’m talking about: http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/108/Banana-Nut-Bre...

If you like this kind of representation for recipe preparation steps, you might also enjoy "Cookbook for Nerds":

https://www.cookbookfornerds.com/

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by JSONderulo » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 10:17 PM UTC

gitgud wrote: post #293

shortformblog wrote: post #138

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FYI, you are about to get eaten alive by foodies. https://www.eater.com/22307633/why-are-people-mad-at-recipea...

Interesting that [1] the website in question has been removed and replaced with an apology. [1] https://recipeasly.com/

The original tweet https://twitter.com/redman/status/1366137187117506560

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by lanamo » Wed, Jan 05, 2022, 10:36 PM UTC

I am using MELA https://mela.recipes - also being frustrated with recipes and the amount of unnecessary blabla, this app is awesome. it de-clutters recipes, has a cooking mode (shows you step by step) and a grocery shopping function. It is the same developer as the awesome Reeder RSS app. Very nice design as well. Check it out and happy cooking!

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by jka » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 12:03 AM UTC

jka wrote: post #352

JonathanBuchh wrote: post #30

It would be amazing if there was something that would convert recipes to the format used on Cooking For Engineers. It’s so intuitive and easy to read. I never want to look at steps to make a recipe again. Scroll to the bottom to see what I’m talking about: http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/108/Banana-Nut-Bre...

If you like this kind of representation for recipe preparation steps, you might also enjoy "Cookbook for Nerds": https://www.cookbookfornerds.com/

(nb: may be inaccessible at the moment via https; worth trying http if so)

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by srg0 » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 8:30 AM UTC

Suggestion: add a switch to convert American units (cups, lb, inches) to international units (ml, g, cm) and vice versa.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by toyg » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 9:23 AM UTC

kixiQu wrote: post #166

toyg wrote: post #60

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The site is back up, although it now seems to contain exclusively "free" recipes (i.e. coming from CC sites and old books). IMHO there are ways to make recipe-scraping resistant to copyright claims. 1. hide all scraping actions behind a login page; that makes content private, hence uninfringing. 2. every time a user "publishes" or shares content, present only an extract of the recipe, like the ingredients and first f…

> private, hence uninfringing let me know how this goes for private torrent tracker sites

Private as in a single user getting stuff and saving it in their own account, not resharing anything. That's not infringement, or rss feed aggregators would be infringing too.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by TheFlyingFish » Thu, Jan 06, 2022, 6:42 PM UTC

robotpony wrote: post #262

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #257

Reading good food writers is the whole point of having good food writers. They can build an evocative sense of the time and place, the sense of why a recipie is the way it is. Its sometimes a personal journey, its sometimes escapism. And yes it changes - Elizabeth David sounds outrageously prissy to modern ears - but food has always been part of human culture, and as we evolve so will our food. Its fine to read the w…

I like the Serious Eats format, where they provide both a brief recipe and an optional backstory. Some of the research and reasoning is interesting for certain recipes (like pressure cooker French Onion soup), though when actually cooking the story makes finding the details a bit more work.

Agreed. I would even be ok with the SE format if they didn't split out the main recipe from the backstory, because with them the backstory is usually something of substance. They often go through multiple iterations, explaining what tweaks they introduced and what the effects were, so that you can understand not only the final recipe but also the principles that went into making it.

That they also give you a quick-and-easy "here's just the recipe" page is just an added bonus, for me.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by sinbadpalomar » Thu, Jan 13, 2022, 4:31 PM UTC

dron57 wrote: post #323

massysett wrote: post #272

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The original problem is that people want to Google for recipes and not pay for them. As a cook there are several solutions to this: 1) pay for a subscription from vendors who are in business to sell recipes, such as Cooks Illustrated 2) get recipes from companies that provide them as a complement because they sell something else, generally food-related products. For instance King Arthur Baking has good recipes, and m…

3) buy cookbooks While cookbooks are great they're not easily searchable. If only I could ingest every recipe from every cookbook I bought into a personal database. Hey that'd be a neat app idea!

this is actually already a thing. Damn i forget the app but it exists I did the trial once

https://www.eatyourbooks.com/

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by theartfuldodger » Sun, Jan 16, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

nybble41 wrote: post #332

theartfuldodger wrote: post #318

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It's obvious to everyone that content producers who write, format, publish and promote recipes usually have a revenue goal. Any tactic that defeats that is theft, whether you want to point to fineprint somewhere or not. You know that someone made something and you have decided not to give back. Ad free recipe sites are already handled, you pay a subscription fee instead. That being said, the final format of an onlyre…

Merely defeating someone's "revenue goal" is not theft. Your definition is so overbroad as to include competition . Or simply not buying every good on offer at whatever price is asked even if you have no interest in it whatsoever. To qualify as theft the supposed victim must be deprived of something they already owned, and that is not happening here.

Sure, because it's just a comment on hackernews and I expect a higher understanding of the basics of the online world here. Did you write and create a piece of content, did you format it, did you host it, did you skip out on going out with your friends because of a deadline?

Specifically creating products to damage these people's returns because of your inability to scroll, use page down, ctr f to move quickly to the information you need is your own weakness and it doesn't give you a right to someone else's labor. You know that without a long ethics conversation. Most recipe writers will fail hard and most who try to create revenue through the ad model fail hard. You want unrestricted access, pay a subscription fee, just as you would expect for your own efforts.

There is no Grey area here, you know and understand the problem and the excuse of laziness or the importance of your time for a 30 second operation wouldn't hold up with anyone.