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Can it run Messages.app? This is the one thing that constantly gives me pause on the linux-desktop switching EDIT: It says "some" GUI apps are working / experimental, so probably Messages is not there yet, just curious if anyone has tried.
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On most machines I tried, linux had every conceivable driver ready out of the box without any configuration. This is absolutely not something one can say about windows (though at least nowadays it will try to fetch drivers from God knows where and often succeed). And Mac supports like 2 hardware devices all together, both of them manufactured by them — comparing an OS that exclusively run on specific hardware is just…
And of course, you're under no obligation to listen to any of us whine, but if, on the off chance, you happen to want more people to like Linux, it seems like taking people's experiences seriously would be a good starting point.
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> Having Linux run iOS, macOS, Android, and Windows applications running would be nothing less than mind-boggling, and would finally get people to stop yelling that nothing runs on Linux Nothing will stop those people from yelling that, because it hasn't been true in a very long time and that doesn't stop them. These are the same people who say they don't want to run Linux because they don't want to compile their sou…
> These are the same people who say they don't want to run Linux because they don't want to compile their sound card drivers. They are already way outside of rational territory and deep into religious territory. It's rational for me to want my sound card to work without having to compile code. No other operating system would make me compile code to fulfill such a rudimentary and basic expectation. That's not religion…
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You missed the point. You typically don't have to compile anything for your sound card, assuming you even have one anyone considering that motherboards have had integrated sound forever now.
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On most machines I tried, linux had every conceivable driver ready out of the box without any configuration. This is absolutely not something one can say about windows (though at least nowadays it will try to fetch drivers from God knows where and often succeed). And Mac supports like 2 hardware devices all together, both of them manufactured by them — comparing an OS that exclusively run on specific hardware is just…
Interesting. I have had to compile drivers for every Linux install I've done in the past three years. Ubuntu, Xubuntu, elementaryOS, Pop!_OS, etc. Maybe we can all accept that people have different experiences? And of course, you're under no obligation to listen to any of us whine, but if, on the off chance, you happen to want more people to like Linux, it seems like taking people's experiences seriously would be a g…
May I ask you what hardware did you install linux on?
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> Having Linux run iOS, macOS, Android, and Windows applications running would be nothing less than mind-boggling, and would finally get people to stop yelling that nothing runs on Linux Nothing will stop those people from yelling that, because it hasn't been true in a very long time and that doesn't stop them. These are the same people who say they don't want to run Linux because they don't want to compile their sou…
> These are the same people who say they don't want to run Linux because they don't want to compile their sound card drivers. They are already way outside of rational territory and deep into religious territory. It's rational for me to want my sound card to work without having to compile code. No other operating system would make me compile code to fulfill such a rudimentary and basic expectation. That's not religion…
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> These are the same people who say they don't want to run Linux because they don't want to compile their sound card drivers. They are already way outside of rational territory and deep into religious territory. It's rational for me to want my sound card to work without having to compile code. No other operating system would make me compile code to fulfill such a rudimentary and basic expectation. That's not religion…
Honestly that's because of hardware suppliers. Don't buy hardware without Linux support and this problem goes away. Windows, through sheer market power and mindshare, has created a situation where most hardware just works on Windows. This is not a rational expectation for other OSes. Trying to run Linux on a random Windows laptop is more or less like trying to run OS X on it. If it doesn't work that's on you
I also tried a Dell XPS, but there were some BIOS problems, the keyboard layout was awful (which is not a Linux problem), and Hibernate was spotty at best.
Bad keyboard layout was also a problem with the Entroware.
Hibernate works perfectly on my LaptopsForLinux model. :+1: I just wish there was a keyboard protector in case I spill coffee on it.
Maybe laptop nirvana will finally be reached with the Framework when it finally reaches these shores. [EDIT] It has arrived.
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On most machines I tried, linux had every conceivable driver ready out of the box without any configuration. This is absolutely not something one can say about windows (though at least nowadays it will try to fetch drivers from God knows where and often succeed). And Mac supports like 2 hardware devices all together, both of them manufactured by them — comparing an OS that exclusively run on specific hardware is just…
Interesting. I have had to compile drivers for every Linux install I've done in the past three years. Ubuntu, Xubuntu, elementaryOS, Pop!_OS, etc. Maybe we can all accept that people have different experiences? And of course, you're under no obligation to listen to any of us whine, but if, on the off chance, you happen to want more people to like Linux, it seems like taking people's experiences seriously would be a g…
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On most machines I tried, linux had every conceivable driver ready out of the box without any configuration. This is absolutely not something one can say about windows (though at least nowadays it will try to fetch drivers from God knows where and often succeed). And Mac supports like 2 hardware devices all together, both of them manufactured by them — comparing an OS that exclusively run on specific hardware is just…