Every few weeks there's a post lamenting the death of RSS and here I am still using RSS every day.
I Miss RSS
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Re: I Miss RSS
#92The author paints it as some kind of conspiracy, but the simple truth is that RSS waned in popularity once push notifications became popular and widespread. Every user's RSS reader polling every website for changes every few minutes for all eternity is horribly inefficient and unfeasible to do on most platforms and devices today (especially on mobile). Pub/sub is the clear way forward, but it's just sad that there is…
FWIW my RSS reader is set up to only refresh manually when I open it and pull to refresh, and I like it that way. It's a much nicer way of reading than having everything yelling for my attention all the time.
Re: I Miss RSS
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 1) It's not that inefficient, especially if you recalculate your feed only when it changes and use HTTP statuses (particularly 304 Not Modified) correctly. Besides, assuming you're not hideously overcomplicating things, you'll just be serving a static file off disk. If your server is a raspberry pi, you ought to still be able to serve some 1000 requests/second if that is what you are doing. Assuming most RSS reader…
Here is what I found looking at my server logs a few months ago: Feedly: 7min Feedbin: 15min Bloglovin: 30min Dreamwidth Studios: 30min Feed Wrangler: 30min NewsBlur: 30min BazQux: 40min inoreader.com: 1hr theoldreader.com: 2hr pine.blog: 24hr https://www.jefftk.com/p/looking-at-rss-user-agents
Also worth mentioning the obvious, feedly etc is updating all the users on their platrom with a single call to your site (every 7 minutes in your case). No doubt they scale the update frequency by how popular it is on their platform / frequently updated / however often the ai decides it is needed.
Re: I Miss RSS
#94The author paints it as some kind of conspiracy, but the simple truth is that RSS waned in popularity once push notifications became popular and widespread. Every user's RSS reader polling every website for changes every few minutes for all eternity is horribly inefficient and unfeasible to do on most platforms and devices today (especially on mobile). Pub/sub is the clear way forward, but it's just sad that there is…
That's not true, but might be a common misconception. RSS rode the wave of the realtime hype at that time and has multiple standards for push notifications. RSSCloud und Pubsubhubbub are the two immediately in my mind, note that PuSH got turned into WebSub.
Multiple standards is the same as no standard. Yes there are many ways to do push-based RSS, but there is no single way that everyone uses.
Re: I Miss RSS
#95FreshRSS + NetNewsWire.
I'm an old school guy and love my curated list of feeds.
Re: I Miss RSS
#96Sort of obvious why RSS went away. It is really hard to put ads into RSS. Sure you can just add a update but that's not really feasible (and could be filtered). So the large sites just started removing it and it helped them capture ad sales.
As a podcast producer, I wish we would wholesale replace RSS soon. It feels like the most paper clip nonsense at this point.
Replace it with what?
Re: I Miss RSS
#97Clearly based on the comments, that tech isn't a problem here, but economics.
I don't think we should return RSS as it was pretty bad format, but something that would serve like that and have some more wider adoption or approval would be fantastic.
Re: I Miss RSS
#98Sort of obvious why RSS went away. It is really hard to put ads into RSS. Sure you can just add a update but that's not really feasible (and could be filtered). So the large sites just started removing it and it helped them capture ad sales.
As a podcast producer, I wish we would wholesale replace RSS soon. It feels like the most paper clip nonsense at this point.
What would you replace it with? Bonus points if your answer is somehow de-centralized like RSS already is. ;-)
Re: I Miss RSS
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alright, I'll bite. Consider a “decentralised” blockchain system that does the work of The Pirate Bay – providing hashes of particular files, along with their names, so that people can select and request data from the P2P network. How, exactly, does this system help with RSS in any way ? Additionally, how does this system help with the “censorship” issues that The Pirate Bay has? Even when The Pirate Bay remains up,…
How, exactly, does this system help with RSS in any way? You cannot make a Twitter-2-RSS bridge because Twitter block access to the data. In a decentralized system, access to the data is inherent. Even when The Pirate Bay remains up, that doesn't mean anybody's seeding That is where the financial incentives come into play. Seeding will be economically incentivised. If all the data is directly on the blockchain, nobod…
I don't want to be a naysayer but how would content moderation in regards to spam and illicit things work in this scendario?
Re: I Miss RSS
#100The author paints it as some kind of conspiracy, but the simple truth is that RSS waned in popularity once push notifications became popular and widespread. Every user's RSS reader polling every website for changes every few minutes for all eternity is horribly inefficient and unfeasible to do on most platforms and devices today (especially on mobile). Pub/sub is the clear way forward, but it's just sad that there is…
XMPP is an accepted IETF Internet Standard with PubSub functionality: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html
Sites like Movim (https://movim.eu/) offer an user friendly front-end for this protocol (building upon the ATOM format). You can login using any XMPP account and also self-host Movim instances.