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Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by mananaysiempre »

altgans wrote: post #30

Haha, I literally just set up Newsboat[1] and this is my second article I read from the comfort of my terminal :) So far Newsboat is great: Everything configurable with text, fast and effortless. The key-binds took a little bit, but now I can even do stuff with hjkl! I will take the opportunity to ask about two issues I am currently facing. - Is there a feed for Github discussions? - Does anyone have some ideas/sourc…

GitHub has per-repo feeds for commits and a private feed for all your events[1], but not for issues or discussions, apparently[2]. Of course, you can always roll your own using the API, a web server, and a cron job, even if it is a bit inelegant.

[1] https://webapps.stackexchange.com/q/20535

[2] https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/31

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by alserio »

_jal wrote: post #46
alserio wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

still ? It's not like there's something better out there

Like what? I'm unaware of other ways to get consistent listings of new content at various sites in a machine readable format.

I agree, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. There's nothing like RSS

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by axegon_ »

So do I. There was plenty that needed improving but fundamentally the idea was awesome. What's more is that I miss Google reader like nothing I've ever missed. I've been pitching the idea to rebuild it to multiple people, even started working on it on my own when I got no response but fundamentally it's too much work for a single person... Truly a shame.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by alserio »

timw4mail wrote: post #24

I follow Hacker News through RSS, as well as most webcomics that I follow. There is one webcomic I enjoy, but can't get an RSS feed, because it's on a service similar to WebToons.

Some days ago there was a ShowHN (if I'm not misremembering) of a tool to generate RSS for sites that do not support them. I haven't tried it but maybe it can be useful to you

Edit: it wasn't a showHN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29772540

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by nightpool »

mawise wrote: post #12

I've been working on a self-hosted (not federated) model for social media called Haven[1]. RSS (with HTTP basic auth) was the obvious answer for "how do I track all of my friends' different sites?" It has the advantage that building an RSS reader into the system means you can follow other Havens and other websites in one place. [1]: https://havenweb.org/

It's interesting to me that you say "Not federated", because RSS has always seemed to me to be one of the best-adopted federated protocols, after SMTP and HTTP. Indeed, the first generation of federated social media protocols were originally based on souped-up RSS feeds (Atom) with an optional PubSub enhancement (Pubsubhubbub, later renamed to WebSub).

So when you say "not federated", what exactly do you mean? If you're publishing to your own site, and other people are reading it on their own compatible sites, isn't that fundamentally a federated model?

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by _jal »

alserio wrote: post #72
_jal wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what? I'm unaware of other ways to get consistent listings of new content at various sites in a machine readable format.

I agree, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. There's nothing like RSS

Ah, thanks, couldn't see your grin through the font I'm using.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by bisby »

qw3rty01 wrote: post #20
bisby wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Google reader shut down, I moved to feedly for like a week. Then I started getting anxiety that feedly would shut down too. Because if google could kill off a product i relied on, anyone could. And that got me into self hosting and running my own services. ttrss was basically my first self hosted thing almost a decade ago. It was great. And then it turned out the guy running it was a bit not pleasant, and I didn…

Google has shut down a bunch of popular services: https://killedbygoogle.com/ I wouldn't use them as a standard for keeping services up.

I'm aware. but also, they aren't the only company to shut down services. They do it more often and more flippantly than other companies, but other companies still do it from time to time. My response to the situation was drastic overkill, but now I get to rely on myself and I have a hobby I enjoy, rather than having to worry about what other companies decide to do with my data.

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by jefftk »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #68
breischl wrote: post #59

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>Every user's RSS reader polling every website for changes every few minutes for all eternity is horribly inefficient and unfeasible to do on most platforms and devices today. 1) It's not that inefficient, especially if you recalculate your feed only when it changes and use HTTP statuses (particularly 304 Not Modified) correctly. 2) Most people then and now would go through an aggregator. So they'd really be talking…

> 1) It's not that inefficient, especially if you recalculate your feed only when it changes and use HTTP statuses (particularly 304 Not Modified) correctly. Besides, assuming you're not hideously overcomplicating things, you'll just be serving a static file off disk. If your server is a raspberry pi, you ought to still be able to serve some 1000 requests/second if that is what you are doing. Assuming most RSS reader…

Here is what I found looking at my server logs a few months ago:

     Feedly: 7min
     Feedbin: 15min
     Bloglovin: 30min
     Dreamwidth Studios: 30min
     Feed Wrangler: 30min
     NewsBlur: 30min
     BazQux: 40min
     inoreader.com: 1hr
     theoldreader.com: 2hr
     pine.blog: 24hr
https://www.jefftk.com/p/looking-at-rss-user-agents

Re: I Miss RSS

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Post by twsted »

I use RSS and I am sad that it is not used universally.

I do not miss Google Reader, because I don’t think it was the right choice for a privacy point of view.

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