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Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by jarek »

rayiner wrote: post #81
martingordon wrote: post #22

> It’s even worse if I just browse without searching. The options I get are just… meaningless. Yes, I want “Everyday Computing,” so I want an Inspiron. But hang on, I also want “Design & Performance,” so I want an XPS. Wait a second, I want “Thin & Powerful,” too. This is the crux of the problem with all of Apple's competitors, in the PC business and in mobile. Why choose when you can have everything? Apple's lineup…

I'm a geek and I couldn't care less what WiFi chipset is in my laptop. I was shopping for a ThinkPad X220 for someone, and it had the option of the regular screen or the "premium" screen for $50 more. They don't tell you what the "premium" screen is or why you'd want it. I presume the regular screen is shitty. Can you even imagine Apple offering such an option? A $1000+ laptop with a shitty screen, with a $50 option…

FWIW, the "premium" screen is IPS. The regular is TN, which like all TNs (including those on Macbooks ;)) is indeed shitty. I do agree the "premium" description sucks.

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by [deleted] »

glenra wrote: post #96
microarchitect wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand these things are partly symbolic, but besides that is this really useful? I mean, is there a real business benefit to Apple by making Khan take the next immediate flight to China rather than the one a few hours later. Similarly, what was your friend doing that was so important that he couldn't wait to get a change of clothes? I personally do my best work when I'm relaxed and un-stressed. The apple enviro…

Speaking from experience as somebody who has done this sort of trip: Yes, it's hugely useful and there is a real business benefit. First off, we're probably talking about a time when there were only a few direct flights a day from SFO to the relevant airport so if he didn't go that afternoon he'd have to wait until the next morning so instead of flying through the night he'd be flying through the day - flying RIGHT T…

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Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by Steko »

dagar wrote: post #92
wysiwtf wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure that X220 is similar enough to an Air, it doesn't look like an air and the design specs are quite bulkier: MacBook Air 11 inch: Height: .68 Weight: 2.38 MacBook Air 13 inch: Height: .68 Weight: 2.96 X220 12 inch: Height: 1.25 Weight: 3.6 I don't think it matters that you spec'ed it out to be slightly faster, I bet many of the people who want an Air-like notebook want the thinnest, cleanest, lightest note…

A fairer comparison might be the X220 with the 6 cell battery which is about 2.9 lbs and around 10 hours (advertised). It also has a 12.5" IPS screen. I believe the 3.6 lbs you mentioned is with the 9 cell 15 hour battery. For comparison the 11" and 13" Macbook Airs are rated 5 and 7 hours, respectively.

It's 3.3 pounds with the 6 cell battery.

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by gamble »

jellicle wrote: post #53

What I grasp from this is that John Gruber and Peter Bright are just too dim to understand basic online stores. This qualifies for mockery from Gruber/Bright: > "Everyday Computing" But this is good understandable product description: > "The ultimate everyday notebook" (that second one is Apple's marketing copy for the Macbook Air). The low-end Macbook Air is $999 in Canada. Let's compare. I just priced a Lenovo X220…

The X220 isn't remotely as thin as the Macbook Air:

http://www.engadget.com/photos/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-review/#...

versus

http://www.engadget.com/photos/macbook-air-review/#4317649

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by jballanc »

jarek wrote: post #113
glenra wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking from experience as somebody who has done this sort of trip: Yes, it's hugely useful and there is a real business benefit. First off, we're probably talking about a time when there were only a few direct flights a day from SFO to the relevant airport so if he didn't go that afternoon he'd have to wait until the next morning so instead of flying through the night he'd be flying through the day - flying RIGHT T…

> For Apple, if your product isn't ready to ship, it's not ready to show Hm. I guess the iPad that shipped a couple of months after being shown is the special butterfly exception that confirms your nice fluffy rule.

Ready to ship almost never means "in stores". Additionally, Apple trusts no one, even when NDAs are in place, so at the very least the product has to be ready to go to third-party partners by the time it's announced. Often, the partners may need some time before it's "ready to ship", which can account for part of the delay.

That said, last minute bugs do happen and cause delays. Apple will ship late before it ships a known defective product (yes, it has shipped defective products, but not any that were known defective), but it doesn't like to do either.

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by X-Istence »

cubicle67 wrote: post #24
X-Istence wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So far there is no bashing of John in this thread, just a single anecdote and story about Tim Cook and how his way of managing has started becoming part of the fabric that is Apple. Apple has a proven formula, they have been able to make consumer products that people want without giving people a big choice.

So far there is no bashing of John in this thread er yeah, I noticed that :) It was more of an "Ok, let's do it right this time" thought written in reaction to previous threads

Unfortunately it did degrade to bashing John. Fuckin' shame really.

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by comex »

rayiner wrote: post #81
martingordon wrote: post #22

> It’s even worse if I just browse without searching. The options I get are just… meaningless. Yes, I want “Everyday Computing,” so I want an Inspiron. But hang on, I also want “Design & Performance,” so I want an XPS. Wait a second, I want “Thin & Powerful,” too. This is the crux of the problem with all of Apple's competitors, in the PC business and in mobile. Why choose when you can have everything? Apple's lineup…

I'm a geek and I couldn't care less what WiFi chipset is in my laptop. I was shopping for a ThinkPad X220 for someone, and it had the option of the regular screen or the "premium" screen for $50 more. They don't tell you what the "premium" screen is or why you'd want it. I presume the regular screen is shitty. Can you even imagine Apple offering such an option? A $1000+ laptop with a shitty screen, with a $50 option…

MacBook Pros have the option to upgrade to a hi-res screen (+$100) or a hi-res antiglare screen (+150).

But at least Apple makes it clear what you're getting:

> The 15-inch MacBook Pro comes with a 1440-by-900-pixel LED-backlit glossy display. You can also choose a high-resolution 1680-by-1050 glossy or antiglare display that gives you 36 percent more pixels.

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by jballanc »

[deleted] wrote: post #122
glenra wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking from experience as somebody who has done this sort of trip: Yes, it's hugely useful and there is a real business benefit. First off, we're probably talking about a time when there were only a few direct flights a day from SFO to the relevant airport so if he didn't go that afternoon he'd have to wait until the next morning so instead of flying through the night he'd be flying through the day - flying RIGHT T…

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Yes he would. Apple doesn't own any jets. Steve owns a jet, and Apple reimburses him when he's using it for Apple-related travel.

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by Steko »

bane wrote: post #99
Steko wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How hard is it for you to not click on something you don't want to read? I see hundreds of posts here every day that I don't click on, some in the top 5. I don't start campaigns to censor these posts, I assume people upvote them because they find value in them. Obviously people find value in Gruber's posts if they are being upvoted. So here's the suggestion again: don't click on it bro . Problem solved.

It'd be better if something I did want to read was in its place.

Fact: HN would cease to exist if everything a minority didn't want to see was blacklisted.

Re: The New Apple Advantage

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Post by runjake »

It really seems like an inferiority complex to me. Yes, Lenovo, Dell, etc all have too many choices and it's confusing (for me, at least).

But after just a little research I was able to pick the perfect Thinkpad for me. You want a Mac? Buy a Mac. You want something else? Buy something else.

Stop letting Gruber or the latest Windows pundit bait you into arguments that don't do you any good -- all you do is boost their blog page views.

Just use whatever and get over the pissing matches. There's no one true path, beware anyone who would tell you such.

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