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Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by MartinCron »

hiptobecubic wrote: post #65
rjzzleep wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. SEO. I've been recommended to have a ghostwriter write technical articles for me to increase my client base. Build enough of a cult following and you can be sure that your youtube channel, or next book has enough of an audience. 2. I think it also appeals to a certain audience. It makes them feel open minded to other cultures. There's an emotional bond forming with the story or the people in the story. Don't forge…

I have literally never met anyone express (2). Any time anyone needs a recipe site they immediately start complaining about it, unprompted.

My wife and I collect cookbooks and cocktail recipe books. There are a handful of writers who have a compelling voice where I read more than just the ingredient list and instructions.

But for some random blog that I find while googling? Never.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by wilde »

tiborsaas wrote: post #82
floatrock wrote: post #61

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Because "Recipes" are one of about a dozen categories for which google defines special Structure Data formats, which allows presumably-high-clickthrough results page features like the rich media carousel previews, etc. https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/structure... If you want to know what categories of things will have especially horrendous (ie clickbait-optimized-to-hell) results, look at the other…

I don't usually search for recipes, but I got these just to test: "pizza pocket recipe" 2nd result is decent: https://foodnetwork.co.uk/recipes/pizza-pockets/ "lasagne recipe easy" 1st result is good: https://www.spendwithpennies.com/easy-homemade-lasagna/ "sushi recipe chicken" 1st result is to the point https://www.tegel.co.nz/recipes/teriyaki-chicken-sushi/ Note that I have adblocker so I don't know how many ads y…

I wonder if it has to do with the type of food. “Hummus recipe” gets you the entire history of chickpeas: https://www.inspiredtaste.net/15938/easy-and-smooth-hummus-r...

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by Symbiote »

geocar wrote: post #62
AwkwardPanda wrote: post #53

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Thanks for the feedback. I'll see if that conversion can be done in a generic way.

I was taught to bake (and write recipes) using a mixture of units; to prefer metric measurements when precision is required, but to prefer "American" units when it isn't, almost to highlight the absence of precision, and to clue the reader that they may have to adjust for humidity or the amount of gluten generated (or whatever). I know this stuff is obvious to an experienced cook, but I can also imagine seeing 14,2g…

I have friends who sometimes help me cook a dinner for more friends. I've seen some of them try to measure out 22.5mL¹ of olive oil for frying because I pressed a button on the site to 1.5× the recipe...

Recipe websites don't include that first 10 pages of a "beginner" recipe book, which usually describes how to measure ingredients and the various cooking techniques used.

¹ 1.5 metric tablespoons, 1.5 × 15mL.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by layer8 »

y04nn wrote: post #110

It is interesting that there is not yet a Wikipedia of recipes. It would be the perfect use case for a wiki. People would love to share their recipes variations and improve/fix existing one. There would be a standard layout, introduction paragraph would explain the history of a recipe and link to other similar recipes. That would be interesting to read. And there would be an endless number of recipes. For-profit site…

The edit wars would be horrible. Everyone has their own recipe for any given food item, plus endless variations.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by badwolf »

JonathanBuchh wrote: post #30

It would be amazing if there was something that would convert recipes to the format used on Cooking For Engineers. It’s so intuitive and easy to read. I never want to look at steps to make a recipe again. Scroll to the bottom to see what I’m talking about: http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/108/Banana-Nut-Bre...

Oh! I love this recipe card style - Thanks for that!

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by technothrasher »

rovr138 wrote: post #83
shoulderfake wrote: post #68

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Such bs. I rarely spend more than 20s on a recipe page anyways. I scroll quickly to find ingredients box and thats it. Done...

...How do you follow the recipe? Or are we talking simple recipes where the steps are simple?

For me, at least, I typically don't follow the recipe. Very rarely am I looking for cooking instruction. I'm familiar enough with most typical cooking techniques that ingredient list and proportions, plus sometimes a quick glance at the steps, is all I need to get the job done. I'm usually modifying the ingredients on the fly as I cook the dish anyway.

When I am looking for cooking instruction, I find my existing library of trusted cookbooks to have a much better signal to noise ratio than Googled recipes sites on the web.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by yhorawu8 »

2bitencryption wrote: post #11

What is the reason that every single recipe site, without fail, follows this same horrible pattern? I.e. the twenty paragraph "When I was a child growing up in Atlanta..." followed by a crappy in-house video player followed by, finally, the actual recipe? My assumption is SEO? For some reason, Google must really like having tons of text on your page, and dislikes simple "here's the recipe"? etc? Second question - any…

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Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by anamax »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #91
Rygian wrote: post #18

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The copyright around the recipe itself is a challenging issue [1], so a simple way of guaranteeing that the site is not scrapped and published elsewhere verbatim is to include also non-recipe material that falls more clearly under copyright law. [1] https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-protection-recipes/

Not sure about the US or the EU in general, but in Germany at least databases - even if they solely consist of trivial, non-copyrightable data - are still copyrighted. This law was put into place after a company in Germany just hired people to type of physical copies of Phonebooks and the yellowpages, and sold a "phonebook" on CD. A name+phonenumber pair isn't copyrightable, but the collection as a whole is (at least…

In the US, the facts in a phone book (names, numbers, addresses) are not copyrightable and neither is the collection. However, see the bit at the end about compilations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications,_Inc.,_v._R....

I wonder whether "fake facts" (bogus names, numbers, addresses) are copyrightable. If they are, they can be used to give copyright protection to a collection even when the bulk of the collection isn't copyrightable.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by vshade »

hiptobecubic wrote: post #65
rjzzleep wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. SEO. I've been recommended to have a ghostwriter write technical articles for me to increase my client base. Build enough of a cult following and you can be sure that your youtube channel, or next book has enough of an audience. 2. I think it also appeals to a certain audience. It makes them feel open minded to other cultures. There's an emotional bond forming with the story or the people in the story. Don't forge…

I have literally never met anyone express (2). Any time anyone needs a recipe site they immediately start complaining about it, unprompted.

I sometimes like to read the paragraphs to know why some things are done and possible substitutions, specially if I'm not going to make the recipe immediately. But when I want to make it, I really would love to have it separated from the text.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

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Post by short12 »

Recipe websites are a prime example of everything that is wrong with the web today. The bulk collection websites are primarily crap but for the same reasons as the personal branded websites. A shit ton of junk around a sometimes worthwhile background story or such and then the recipe all with shit tons of junk interrupting and destroying any sense of continuity. Fuck their stupid ads
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