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Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#51

Is this a real service, or just a portfolio project for your resume?

For now it's just a project. I learned Flutter and wanted to build something with it.

If enough people like it, I will make this a full-fledged service.

And focus on adding features like dark mode, server-sync, sign-in, account management, export/import of recipes, sharing screenshots of recipes like this one directly with your friends https://i.redd.it/kk1goqsswo981.png

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's SEO. Once a SEO expert was showing me user heatmaps on his popular website's articles. The users completely ignored 90% of the content and of the text of a page. I asked him why so many parts of the text were ignored by the users and his answer was "oh, that text is not for the users, it's for google". The literally paid writers to write articles way longer than needed solely to satisfy Google algorithms. The wo…

If this is true. Is there any harm in putting the recipe at the top and the story below?

Placing recipes on the bottom and behind “click to show” type features forces users to remain on your site for a longer period of time. This makes it appear to Google that users are more “engaged” on your website because it takes longer for them to bounce in the cases where the recipe isn’t what they are looking for.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#53
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Since OnlyRecipe.app is already parsing the recipe site, it would be a great feature to allow conversion to weights from volume (e.g. show 120g of flour vs. 1c of flour). Also, allow someone to double (or 1.5x...) the recipe as well, and have all measures double in the recipe!

Thanks for the feedback. I'll see if that conversion can be done in a generic way.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#54

What is the reason that every single recipe site, without fail, follows this same horrible pattern? I.e. the twenty paragraph "When I was a child growing up in Atlanta..." followed by a crappy in-house video player followed by, finally, the actual recipe? My assumption is SEO? For some reason, Google must really like having tons of text on your page, and dislikes simple "here's the recipe"? etc? Second question - any…

> Google will parse out any star rating from the recipe page and show it alongside the results

Recipe Schema: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/structure...

Yes, you can totally fake the # of stars & rating.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#55
Nicely done! I just ran into this "clutter" issue last week while trying to read a recipe that kept auto-scrolling due to a pop-up ad intermittently changing height at the top of the page. Some quick feedback: it worked perfectly for a recipe at "simplyrecipes.com" but was unable to find a recipe on the Food Network, specifically: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/creme-brulee... Keep up the good work!

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#56
post #10

Since OnlyRecipe.app is already parsing the recipe site, it would be a great feature to allow conversion to weights from volume (e.g. show 120g of flour vs. 1c of flour). Also, allow someone to double (or 1.5x...) the recipe as well, and have all measures double in the recipe!

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Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's SEO. Once a SEO expert was showing me user heatmaps on his popular website's articles. The users completely ignored 90% of the content and of the text of a page. I asked him why so many parts of the text were ignored by the users and his answer was "oh, that text is not for the users, it's for google". The literally paid writers to write articles way longer than needed solely to satisfy Google algorithms. The wo…

If this is true. Is there any harm in putting the recipe at the top and the story below?

> If this is true. Is there any harm in putting the recipe at the top and the story below?

From an SEO perspective, yes.

Time spent on page will be less if the recipe is on the top.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's SEO. Once a SEO expert was showing me user heatmaps on his popular website's articles. The users completely ignored 90% of the content and of the text of a page. I asked him why so many parts of the text were ignored by the users and his answer was "oh, that text is not for the users, it's for google". The literally paid writers to write articles way longer than needed solely to satisfy Google algorithms. The wo…

If this is true. Is there any harm in putting the recipe at the top and the story below?

Yes. I worked at a site that had an SEO-obsessed boss and basically the keywords, placement of keywords, formatting of the page, everything...all affected SEO.

However, that all likely paled in comparison to him gaming the system by paying to host separate sites that linked back to his in an effort to boost legitimacy during the times when SEO was a make or break thing.

Re: Show HN: OnlyRecipe.app – Remove clutter from recipe sites

#60

Someone tried this a while back and it didn't go so well: https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/03/02/recipeasly-fo...

The site is back up, although it now seems to contain exclusively "free" recipes (i.e. coming from CC sites and old books).

IMHO there are ways to make recipe-scraping resistant to copyright claims.

1. hide all scraping actions behind a login page; that makes content private, hence uninfringing.

2. every time a user "publishes" or shares content, present only an extract of the recipe, like the ingredients and first few steps; expanding the extract sends you to the original site (ideally to the specific anchor of the procedure).

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