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When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
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Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As for shooting out the tyres... This comes up every so often with regard to high speed chases: "Why not just let him go and then make the arrest after things have calmed down? We know where he lives." The answer to that question is very simple: you are operation under the premise that you can accurately predict your target's future actions. You cannot, and it is laughably foolish to think otherwise. This is why, i…
> US military at least, the prevention of prisoner escape is a justification for deadly force regardless of the reason for imprisonment Well, the world is aware that the US tends to have a "shoot first, ask later" policy. Meanwhile, time for your regular reminder that in the UK policing operates on a consent basis. Overall this basis has served the UK well for the last few hundred years. Even Tasers are classed as a…
that's great, the US has more guns than humans
Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#33Posted last week here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29723433 TL;DW Guy thinks information should be free. Thinks an informed society is important. Thinks journalistic freedom is necessary for that. Thinks Julian Assange should be free. Video is about the circumstances around the foiling of the plot to get Julian Assange out of the country by means of becoming an Ecuador diplomat. There was a meeting between J…
> including shooting out tires Thank you for posting the TL;DR @marktucker. It saves everyone watching a video that is no doubt full of pure invented FUD and BS. Why do I say that ? Because of the "shooting out tires" bit. 1. Its a dumb American thing, no way in hell it would be permitted in the UK .. actually no, to give the yanks their due, I don't event think they would start shooting at tyres randomly on a public…
This comment reminds me of that scene in El Camino where Pinkman explains how he knows the shopkeeper didn't really dial 911.
Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> US military at least, the prevention of prisoner escape is a justification for deadly force regardless of the reason for imprisonment Well, the world is aware that the US tends to have a "shoot first, ask later" policy. Meanwhile, time for your regular reminder that in the UK policing operates on a consent basis. Overall this basis has served the UK well for the last few hundred years. Even Tasers are classed as a…
> Well, the world is aware that the US tends to have a "shoot first, ask later" policy. The larger point that you seem to have missed being that the US military doesn't do anything without a logical or historical justification (barring cases involving immediate political pressure). They've either thoroughly thought it through or there are a lot of bodies behind the silliest of rules. Why do they insist on putting the…
> It is always funny to me when people compare culturally homogenous countries to the US.
Never been to london I take it.
Its always funny when Americans comment on the rest of the world, maintaining the illusion with all their exceptional talent that they could, if needed, point to their own country on a map let alone find any other.
Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Well, the world is aware that the US tends to have a "shoot first, ask later" policy. The larger point that you seem to have missed being that the US military doesn't do anything without a logical or historical justification (barring cases involving immediate political pressure). They've either thoroughly thought it through or there are a lot of bodies behind the silliest of rules. Why do they insist on putting the…
> It is always funny to me when people compare culturally homogenous countries to the US. Never been to london I take it. Its always funny when Americans comment on the rest of the world, maintaining the illusion with all their exceptional talent that they could, if needed, point to their own country on a map let alone find any other.
For my part, I always find it amusing when people from {the area in which the EU is dominant} hear a rhetorical comparison country-to-country and respond citing a major region from their part of the world.
It really underlines how massive the US is, and how hard that is for outsiders to truly comprehend.
Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It is always funny to me when people compare culturally homogenous countries to the US. Never been to london I take it. Its always funny when Americans comment on the rest of the world, maintaining the illusion with all their exceptional talent that they could, if needed, point to their own country on a map let alone find any other.
For my part, I always find it amusing when people from {the area in which the EU is dominant} hear a rhetorical comparison country-to-country and respond citing a major region from their part of the world. It really underlines how massive the US is, and how hard that is for outsiders to truly comprehend.
> It really underlines how massive the US is
Which is smaller than its poor neighbours to the north Canada.
If we go ahead and exclude the massive Alaska, the 48 contiguous states and the District of Columbia are about the size of Australia.
I guess it is hard for insiders to truly comprehend as well, perhaps objects just look bigger up close.
Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
By invoking the US military you have lost the plot. There is no justification for a US military type response to a journalist. Neither the London police nor the CIA are military.
You’re starting from a point that hasn’t been established. > response to a journalist You call him a journalist. The US government calls him a Russian asset. The UK court agrees more with them than you or he wouldn’t be holed up in an embassy.
The main dogma of media today is that you have to let governments create their own reality. If they say black is white, you say black is white, possibly with a note that some people contest claim that black is merely black.
No matter how unreliable they are, no matter how many times they've deliberately lied to you, next time you are obliged to trust them again. To do otherwise would be disloyal. The courts are objective and independent, because the courts say so.
In the latest court abuse of Assange, the UK wigs literally made that argument, that the US assurances MUST be trusted, and dismissed attempts to even argue from earlier betrayals that the US assurances might not be trustworthy.
If you accept this line of argument, you literally will accept anything.
Of all the things Assange has done to unmask the powerful, nothing has been as damning as the way they unmasked themselves, in their fury in attempting to "get" him.
Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> including shooting out tires Thank you for posting the TL;DR @marktucker. It saves everyone watching a video that is no doubt full of pure invented FUD and BS. Why do I say that ? Because of the "shooting out tires" bit. 1. Its a dumb American thing, no way in hell it would be permitted in the UK .. actually no, to give the yanks their due, I don't event think they would start shooting at tyres randomly on a public…
You may read it yourself on the briefing sheet they got a picture of. "Permitted" by whom? Do you imagine that CIA or MI5 thugs dressed up in bobby outfits worry about whether what they do might upset you?
The MI5 have explicitly given themselves permission to do illegal things. Makes sense when you consider that a good number of the people who willingly join it, probably are idiots who have watched too many Bond movies.
I suspect all secretive organizations, from mafias to lodges to intelligence services, get shaped by influx of pop culture ideas of what they do, more than they would like to admit.
Though, it's actually a good sign that they moved to get it into a bill (the "Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill") rather than merely having it as an informal policy. Shows they're at least slightly worried about having to answer for their crimes one day.
Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#39Were those guys in the car likely to be card-carrying CIA operatives or just hired thugs given orders from the CIA/MI6?
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Re: When WikiLeaks bumped into the CIA: Operation Kudo exposed [video]
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't just some private detective paid just over minimum wage to sit there for multiple years and radio in if anything happens.
There's at least 3 fairly muscular dudes in the car
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't just 3 fairly muscular dudes paid just over minimum wage to sit there for multiple years and radio in if anything happens.
The guarding of the embassy to stop assange from walking out cost £3mil a year, thats a lot of muscular dudes sitting in cars drinking coffee 24 hours a day.