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"technological development". Don't we already have plenty of more efficient coins out there?
I’ve never understood the BTC purists. I’m generally anti-crypto in any variety, but As far as cryptocurrency‘s go, bitcoin is really bad compared to so many alternatives. I’d just as soon see it all go up in smoke. But why does BTC reign?
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#202My personal opinion is that whilst Bitcoin is not the answer, many seem to miss the point of cryptocurrencies, which IMHO is, to enable a permissionless electronic cash system. Being decentralized is an important aspect of it, and TPS and time-to-finality etc are important metrics for any practical use, but the appeal of cryptocurrencies is that you don't need the permission of others to open an account nor have to p…
The appeal of cryptocurrencies for most buyers is that Bitcoin dectupled in a year and people seem to be getting fabulously rich off of them everywhere you look. No more and no less.
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Ideally, you would mine your Bitcoin in Iceland or Chile [1] with geothermal or hydro and buy corn from Iowa with it and the farmers there use it to buy power from the local windmill grid, so it's a battery in that sense. [1] https://www.hydropower.org/country-profiles/chile
That's not a battery -- that's a form of economic triage where you burn power to produce tokens that allow you to buy power somewhere else. To use the analogy: nowhere is the battery being "drained". Edit: to make the analogy more complete: a bitcoin is, in effect, proof that energy has been wasted. Using a bitcoin to purchase renewable power from a windfarm is tantamount purchasing that power with empty batteries or…
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Sure, if you are serious, the Bitcoin Standard book is a worthy read. But what’s important is that Bitcoin solves the inflation problem, and proof of work is the only system that we have for getting rid of the Cantillon effect of modern banking: the closer people get to the top of the central banks, the richer they get and destroy life for those who don’t have access to the inner layers of central banking. With Bitco…
Inflation might a problem but a world where countries would no longer be able to adjust the value of their money isn’t scarier? Wouldn’t we be giving up an essential lever to adjust to changing economical conditions?
Who’s we? You, I, and most people have zero ability to move those levers. The question is should they have access to those levers and I firmly believe the answer is no. I’d rather have a world with sound money and no one in control than the people who have dominated the west for the last 100+ years.
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I feel like lots of people forgot about 2007/08 and the impact on so many people around the world. It was truly painful and destructive. And very clearly people responsible got off free, with bonuses and some even ended up with jobs in the treasury. A lot of people I know working in crypto saw their families hurt badly by that crises and will happily spend their lives trying to build something else (even if the odds…
Serious question: how would cryptocurrencies and defi have helped avoid/mitigate the subprime lending crisis specifically?
Given time, things were nowhere near as bad as you could have been forgiven for thinking at the height of it. But the risk created by the fact nobody knew that caused the credit “crunch” and liquidity to dry up, and while banks were bailed out and recovered, the downstream impacts were horrendous.
That scenario simply isn’t possible even with the craziest, risky-as-shit defi protocols. You can see how much is at risk in every contract for every address, reports could be built automatically, and the risk is defined by the code, there is no ISDA agreement or OTC contract that might cause someone to come along and say you actually owe a bunch more money than you put at risk, and every cent (or satoshi, or whatever) of collateral is accounted for.
So it’d have helped a lot. Albeit the whole financial system would look quite different to how it does today (that’s the goal!).
Also, although the general principles are good and the primitives are increasingly in place, the protocols (financial products) in defi are mostly still “toys” and not, for the most part, ready to replace the current system. There is no technical reason why they can’t though, and progress in that direction is happening even if a lot of defi doesn’t make it look that way.
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People don't have faith in the mainstream financial system and are fleeing for the exits.
It amazes me, how many people seem not to see this point
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#207In my darker moments I've come to believe that accelerationism is the only viable pathway to save the planet, since nothing short of civilizational collapse seems to be capable of seriously reducing our carbon emissions. From that perspective this is great news!
I've also been hoping for the same thing. The faster the current system falls apart, the less painful it will be. The years of daily grind combined with a feeling of hopelessness is what hurts people the most and causes lasting resentment.
Our civilization is too interdependent with no place being able to sustain any level of advanced technology on itself. We traded all the resilience we had for "efficiency". Our current system is very brittle and if it fails, it fails globally. Expect hundreds of millions to die if it does.
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> In a few years Bitcoin mining will kill way more people than the number of political dissidents How are you counting the number of political dissidents saved?
Do you have any evidence that this number is nonzero?
* https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2020/09/09/belarus-nonprofit...
* https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2020/10/16/nigerian-banks-shut...
* https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2020/07/15/russian-activists...
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I can explain my own downvote, if you like: the article is calling for reform of Bitcoing to make it more sustainable. You're pretending it's calling for bitcoin to be abolished - i.e a total strawman. You're also downplaying the enormity of the statement made by the post - including that Bitcoin has singlehandedly negated any climate gains we're making by electrifying cars. That's appalling, given the extremely low…
I didn't see an article. I saw a tweet with statistics. I had to look for the article, it's further down past a few hidden tweets. I appreciate your written explanation, I'm not a fan of the "downvote as disagreement" mechanism.
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#210PoW mining (at least), must be made illegal. I have no doubts that it will end by becoming illegal, the question is how and when. It boggles the mind that there is now essentially a worldwide tax on semiconductors, which is used to do... nothing of any value whatsoever. And this thing just keeps growing. The effects will be felt in more and more economic sectors. Something will have to give. So, the only question is:…
What else would you make illegal? High fidelity 3d graphics in gaming? It is clearly wasteful and games are hardly any better because of high polygon count, right?
We can handle transactions with quite little energy using traditional means. It’s not pseudonymous or decentralized and it’s not extremely efficient. But compared to Bitcoin it’s a wonder of efficiency.
I wouldn’t take anything off the table when it comes to banning energy use. But rendering in particular seems like a strange choice.
Incandescent bulbs were banned because there was a good alternative. PoW cryptocurrency is the incandescent bulb.