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Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by matheusmoreira »

paganel wrote: post #171
matheusmoreira wrote: post #162

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Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> in the correct order in their little streaming service user interfaces. And in the correct format [1]. Made me just want to pirate Seinfeld so that I could watch it under the proper conditions, but I'm too lazy for that as Netflix is just a few clicks away. [1] https://twitter.com/Thatoneguy64/status/1443961536079450117 ?

How embarrassing.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by matheusmoreira »

luckylion wrote: post #176
matheusmoreira wrote: post #162

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Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. Music has proven that idea wrong. I'm part of a few private music trackers that came after oink and what.cd. They're much smaller today than they used to. Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts. They're maybe serving 200k people worldwide, if you include the language-specific ones from China, Korea etc. Spotify a…

Yeah, if you like popular music which is what the average person consumes. If I look up some less popular artist or even a soundtrack on spotify chances are it won't be there. About a year ago I tried it, found exactly one of the about 30 works I searched for. All the stuff that gets played on the radio is there, of course. It was an immensely disappointing experience. Why pay for this crap since I'll still have to resort to youtube or something to get what I want?

What I meant by competition is they won't be able to offer higher quality and availability. They will never achieve the ideal I proposed: everything humanity has ever created at the highest possible quality. They are of course masters at being just good enough for the average consumer. Honestly that bar is pretty low.

I will never forgive them for shutting what.cd down. I consider that a crime against humanity itself that vastly outweighs whatever little profits they thought they were losing.

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Post by kortilla »

VRay wrote: post #193
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #181

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probably it was the average family but not the median family, which of course means that the high end dream consumer family was paying much more than that.

Man, I grew up lower/lower-middle class, about 30-40% of the median family income, and we had the $80/month cable package plus went to Blockbuster for 5+ rentals per week I don't think that was unusual, either.

Of course you don’t think it was unusual, that was your upbringing. The stats I linked showed that cable’s peak was 40 million households.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by kortilla »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #181
kortilla wrote: post #137

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> The average family paid 100 for cable and on top kept buying dvds for 10-20 a pop. Lol, no way in hell that was the average. That was the high end dream consumer that very few of the people I knew matched even back in cable’s heyday. https://www.statista.com/statistics/680645/number-of-cable-s... In my family we would rent lots of movies each week with an 2-3 times a week ritual trip to the video rental store to pi…

probably it was the average family but not the median family, which of course means that the high end dream consumer family was paying much more than that.

No, it wasn’t the median either. That would be the high end of a cable subscriber setup in the 90s and 00s. About the only way to go above it is constant on demand rentals and PPV fights.

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Post by madeofpalk »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #250
madeofpalk wrote: post #241

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What's this "scam" you keep mentioning?

You pay for netflix yet you can't watch stuff you want. You search for a film and it shows up on the search autocomplete and yet it's not there. Why? Copyright bullshit nobody cares about. Films that used to be in your list mysteriously disappear. You swear it was there but it's not. It's like netflix is gaslighting you. Sometimes you try to watch something only to be greeted by an ominous "last day to watch on netfl…

"This shop doesn't sell everything I want" is hardly a scam.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by e-clinton »

I subscribe to all these services and I’m thankful these tools exist.

Yesterday I was on an 8.5h plane ride and of course, all the movies I pre-downloaded on Disney+ refused to play because it kept wanting to connect to the internet first.

Netflix refused to download anything because apparently I have stuff downloaded in too many devices. Which to me, they should provide an easy way to deauthorize the other devices, but not sure what that’s even an issue since I have 4 profiles.

Apple TV has been pretty great so far without issues.

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Post by skyzyx »

sofixa wrote: post #210
boudin wrote: post #202

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There is a way to make piracy obsolete which almost happened in France: the Licence Globale. https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_globale (content in French). The concept is to allow the exchange of copyrighted cultural goods and collect a fee at the ISP level to finance those back.

Thank you for this. What a world we could have had if this law had passed!

I co-founded a company in 2006 which intended to do something very similar to this. We ran out of money when the economy collapsed in 2008. I’m still passionate about the idea, but it’s high-risk for a private corporation in the US to pull off.
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