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Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by dartharva »

katbyte wrote: post #183
matheusmoreira wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

Games and music seem to have managed to defeat piracy. And when it was just Netflix before the fragmentation and greed of the movie/tv content holders no one I knew downloaded.

> Games and music seem to have managed to defeat piracy.

> Games

Hmm.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by boudin »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #162
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when the Covenant Kodi plugin was thriving and the media companies hadn't waged legal-nuclear war against that sort of thing yet? It finally felt like the future: I could watch anything , in any language it was available in, right now, in my chosen quality, with automatic subtitle downloads if you want that sort of thing. I would pay good money for a service that could do that legitimately, but no, we can't…

Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

There is a way to make piracy obsolete which almost happened in France: the Licence Globale. https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_globale (content in French).

The concept is to allow the exchange of copyrighted cultural goods and collect a fee at the ISP level to finance those back.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by Lio »

foobarian wrote: post #149
dave5104 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About your Disney+ example, I do wonder why it seems that a lot of content like that isn't available on the platform. Are there streaming rights issues? Are they holding back content to drip feed content drops for as long as they can? Did they determine that some content isn't worth digging up the tapes and preparing for streaming?

I wonder also how much of the older content is self-censored for e.g. political correctness reasons.

That’s certainly seems to be true for Kundun (1997).

The Chinese Communist Party wasn’t happy the film was made in the first place and would probably ban Disney from their market if it was available for streaming in the USA.

It’s quiet, limited sale on DVD is still tolerated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundun

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by dartharva »

paulcole wrote: post #100
dmix wrote: post #10

I for one thank our piracy overlords who endlessly work to make every form of content (optionally) freely available in high quality. I pay for plenty of subscription services that finally figured out how to make content as easy and accessible as piracy but there will forever exist legitimate gaps where “just pay for it” is simply insufficient (geo being #1, silly copyright owners #2, etc etc). The other article menti…

I’ll admit I don’t understand how people can ethically pirate content. I dislike a lot of business models but I just don’t feel right calling them “silly” and looking for ways to take things I know I don’t have the right to take.

Not just "silly", many are genuinely user-hostile. I have legitimate copies of games that I'd rather not touch as against pirated copies of the same games (mostly from Rockstar and Ubisoft) that provide an objectively superior, garbage-free experience.

Same goes with Movies and shows. I have Netflix and PrimeVideo subscriptions but the overall quality they provide is trash as against 4K ripped HEVC releases with 10bit audio and better subtitles which you can watch in whatever player you want.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by heavyset_go »

ehnto wrote: post #161

What surprised me is how quickly it felt like the consensus went from "DRM is evil" to "Neat, Netflix!". Same thing with privacy and anonymity online. I have to imagine it's because the internet quickly filled with people not primed to be interested in those concerns and so they became popular in spite of the previous concerns. Less like the boiling of the frog metaphor and more like they started boiling a mouse and…

> I have to imagine it's because the internet quickly filled with people not primed to be interested in those concerns and so they became popular in spite of the previous concerns.

It's because of a lot of PR and astroturfing.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by dartharva »

vopi wrote: post #18
Crazyontap wrote: post #6

One of the best layman hacks to rip all these services is still using ffmpeg/sse with Xvfb. They can DRM and engineer all they want but nobody can stop me from recording what's playing on my screen :D

But services limit quality on Linux (due to not having a high-enough DRM level).

Can it not work with WSL on Windows?

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by nix23 »

benrbray wrote: post #140
paulcole wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll admit I don’t understand how people can ethically pirate content. I dislike a lot of business models but I just don’t feel right calling them “silly” and looking for ways to take things I know I don’t have the right to take.

As an example, I recently wanted to watch The West Wing. I pay for Netflix and Hulu already, but the show is only on HBO Max. OK, fine, I guess I'll pay for a month of HBO like I've done before to watch Game of Thrones. Ok, uh, what's it called now? HBO Go? HBO Now? Oh, HBO Max, ok. I live in Japan now, so I'm region-blocked, great. Time to open the VPN. HBO already seems to know that server #1243 is a VPN, but serve…

Yep, same old story. If pirating has the better deployment, then pirating is the better service.

People have no problem to pay, but driving into the city to buy a cd then convert it so you can listen to it on your ipod......or eMule?

I love it that they are resistant to learn anything from the past.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by kybernetikos »

I accept that Netflix and Disney are rental services. Google and amazon however "sell" films and series that can be accessed through their service. In my opinion users should have a legally protected right to download / backup any content that they buy that is not explicitly time limited.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by sofixa »

boudin wrote: post #202
matheusmoreira wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

There is a way to make piracy obsolete which almost happened in France: the Licence Globale. https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_globale (content in French). The concept is to allow the exchange of copyrighted cultural goods and collect a fee at the ISP level to finance those back.

Thank you for this. What a world we could have had if this law had passed!
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