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Tokyo: A big city that is also pleasant to live in

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Re: Tokyo: A big city that is also pleasant to live in

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Someone commented that people hate each other in the US more than elsewhere, thus need more space apart from other people.

This made me think: how does this supposed US hatred for itself compare with European hatred for "the other"? Living in Moscow I heard from a German girl that she was scorned for being German; in another situation I heard form a Russian man that he felt unwelcome in Germany for being German. I'm not even getting into ancient Spain x Portugal, Poland x Germany kind of enmities.

Re: Tokyo: A big city that is also pleasant to live in

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Please see my other comments. Diversity vs harmony.

That's not an answer, nor do your other comments answer on the happiness of those who don't want to be a housewife. Reading between the lines, your answer so far is "Sucks to be them".

I answered, in Japan there are plenty of single women doing career and they do just fine. Is that not the answer you’re looking for?

Do you seem to know what’s best for our country?

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Suburban land is cheaper to buy but far more expensive to service (water, electricity, roads, etc.) and maintain. https://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-02/inside-th... Cities are subsidizing your excessive consumption and land use not the other way around.

> Cities are subsidizing your excessive consumption and land use not the other way around. You're making value judgments about me, and they're not even factual. I happen to live in the city. I just see the value of suburbs and the incredible waste, inequality, and ineptitude of cities. Servicing suburbs isn't expensive. With wind and solar, they'll grow even cheaper. Suburbs often have their own municipal water suppl…

I didn't intend to, I meant cities are subsidizing suburbia.

You sure went off on a tangent and didn't address a single point, correctly - but mostly at all, I or the article made. Pipes are expensive, underground utilities are expensive, roads are expensive. All of those things scale much better within a city and its population & density. Servicing suburbs IS expensive compared to cities. Water is typically metered and paid for as a user rate not from the general tax fund.

Sense of community is on you, not where you live. Either you're not getting involved or people don't want to be around you.

You are talking right past me to be heard, with subjective facts, not to have a discussion.

Re: Tokyo: A big city that is also pleasant to live in

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With wind and solar, everything grows cheaper. Single family homes are irrefutably less efficient than denser multi-family homes. https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2014-03/documents/lo... I won’t disagree with your comments on noise and pollution, because those are real factors, but you are 100% moving goalposts now.

Single family sprawl is more cost efficient than dense development when you include regulatory compliance.

What regulatory compliance? Got any studies?

Just from a logical perspective, companies don't build skyscrapers/increase density in cities to lose money.

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Where do the suburbanites work? That tunnel, rail, or subway is allowing who to get into and out of the city easier? > The Green Line Extension (GLX) project will extend the existing MBTA Green Line service north of Lechmere Station and into the communities of Somerville, Cambridge, and Medford.

GLX is primarily about serving the urban community better.

From wiki:

> The Green Line Extension (GLX) is a construction project to extend the light rail Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) Green Line northwest into Somerville and Medford, two inner suburbs of Boston, Massachusetts.

I’m not familiar with the Boston area, are Medford and Somerville mainly urban extensions of Boston?

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Exactly. The US has very few cities proper, and a lot of huge suburbs that sometimes feature a city-like downtown (L.A., Houston), and sometimes don't (most of the Silicon Valley). The real honest dense US cities, such as NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, and a few others, were built large and dense before the advent of the car, and had entrenched public transportation system before 1930s. Those that were not as lu…

L.A consists of many fairly dense walkable neighborhoods. You can live in these neighborhoods without a car.

If you mean Los Angeles then I can't disagree more. Maybe Westwood, maybe downtown. But "consisting many of fairly dense walkable neighborhoods" is not a description I would ever have been expected to be applied to Los Angeles.

Re: Tokyo: A big city that is also pleasant to live in

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GLX is primarily about serving the urban community better.

From wiki: > The Green Line Extension (GLX) is a construction project to extend the light rail Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) Green Line northwest into Somerville and Medford, two inner suburbs of Boston, Massachusetts. I’m not familiar with the Boston area, are Medford and Somerville mainly urban extensions of Boston?

Somerville is the main beneficiary of GLX and is basically part of the urban core of Boston, yes.

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Wow, I had never seen that before. What a bizarre video with a forced tie-in of the whole manifest destiny idea with lunar missions (1976). It seems to completely ignore the reality of communities and society (and history, for that matter) for an unquestioning expansion of our domain, all wrapped up in this patronizing metaphor about needing "elbow room".

Yes. It is our narrative. This is one of the most honest videos I’ve ever found of our true views on life in America vs the ivory tower discussions that constantly blame GM and Robert Moses for destroying their “communities”

If that is "The American Narrative" how did Chicago or New York City ever happen? How is it that a majority of Americans live in metropolitan areas rather than further out where they can more "elbow room" ?

The European conquest of north America and subsequent repopulation with immigrants (alongside a vastly diminished indigenous population) created an ethos and an opportunity for people who wanted to live away from everybody else to do so ... by pretending that the continent had been empty, and because of the need for natural resources, this was relatively easy to do.

But alongside that process, Americans were building some of the largest cities in the world, developing and improving "urban technologies", and generally pushing the boundaries of what cities could be (a role now largely taken over by SE Asia).

Any explanation for the structure, placement, demographics and dynamics of American society that focuses on single reason for things (whether it is "elbow room", "Robert Moses" or "racism") is going to be wrong about most things.

Re: Tokyo: A big city that is also pleasant to live in

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L.A consists of many fairly dense walkable neighborhoods. You can live in these neighborhoods without a car.

If you mean Los Angeles then I can't disagree more. Maybe Westwood, maybe downtown. But "consisting many of fairly dense walkable neighborhoods" is not a description I would ever have been expected to be applied to Los Angeles.

Venice, Santa Monica, West Hollywood, Silverlake ?

Re: Tokyo: A big city that is also pleasant to live in

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If you mean Los Angeles then I can't disagree more. Maybe Westwood, maybe downtown. But "consisting many of fairly dense walkable neighborhoods" is not a description I would ever have been expected to be applied to Los Angeles.

Venice, Santa Monica, West Hollywood, Silverlake ?

These are vanishingly small postage stamps compared the absolutely vast sprawl that is LA. I mean seriously. Get on the 10 and head east. Let me know when you get outside the sprawl. It'll be over an hour at highway speeds. It's that big. Just the city of LA itself is 503 square miles. Santa Monica is (nominally) 8 square miles--and most of that is not what you are referring to. 3rd street promenade, a few beachfront streets, a few blocks on Wilshire and Santa Monica blvd. I have a feeling you never really drove around LA and appreciated how absolutely massive it is.

And here's a nice infographic comparing the density of LA and New York, if you're interested in more than anecdotes:

https://www.its.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/...

TLDR; no, LA is not mostly dense, walkable areas. Very far from it.

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